SWTOR Free to Play ?

[noahjam326]

I'm just glad I wasn't the only person who noticed the original information was pulled by the site owners. I just hope people actually validate this and the discussion can move from there.

[Leonard McCoy]

I'm just glad I wasn't the only person who noticed the original information was pulled by the site owners. I just hope people actually validate this and the discussion can move from there.

Actually even when you get the cached version from google cache the whole context of the article is missing. It's just a handful of quotes and then it says to subscribe to their service for the whole article. The entire thing is one giant out of context snafu.

[Xcitement]

I have never been a fan of the Free2Play model. It is mainly because most of the time it boils down to a pay to win. The main reason why I prefer the subscription model is that in time and with some effort I can have the same thing. I am happy knowing the reason why I lost is not because I did not shell out the cash for that uber item of the week but because said person is just better than me. I can learn from that loss and come back better, pick up some new tricks from analyzing the fight etc.

What I don't understand is why someone would prefer to pay real money for something they can get for in game cash.

Free2Play games tend to be crap. There are few that could be talked about in the same breadth as the Subscription games. Sure there's a lot of players registered but most of them don't play. They use the numbers of the people who tried the game for like 1hr and uninstalled so they can validate charging advertisers so they can make some extra cash. I'm not saying the company is wrong but that doesn't mean the game is popular.

I doubt SW:TOR is gonna go Free2Play but if it does I'll finish checking out the class stories and move on...

[Venziir]

Is there a date as to when they make the first 15 levels f2p?

[RoninaThorstone]

Is there a date as to when they make the first 15 levels f2p?

July 15th i think.

[Deleted]

Would TOR been better F2play?

NO!

[Deleted]

Banned – I think you would LOVE for TOR to die, just so you can say YUP I WAS right!!! – I have a friend like that who was a spurs supporter and got fed up with only getting in the top 5 so now he supports Man Utd, I bet you also think IPHONES are better then SAMSUNGS because more people have them.

I played wow for 6 years. Yeah I enjoyed it but got bored. Swotor is better, looks better, sounds better, the combat is more fun, and has got better and better since its launch. I remember when wow first launched, it was pretty basic, terrible by todays standard and has evolved, just like Swotor and other games will evolve. I don’t know the reasons you gave up so easily on it. Perhaps wow has you institutionalised.

You can’t say Swotor - lacks content because unless you play every day for like 12 hours a day there’s plenty to be getting on with. No one wants a game that has so much content you don’t know where the fuck to start and you never feel like your accomplishing anything.

I think you should come back to swotor, play it actively invest time in it, and then make comment about actually references to parts of the game, rather than just saying yeah I played it for a month, its shit, end of its DEAD its official.

Even the very wise cannot see to all ends bro. I think if you spent as much time playing it as you do talking about it you might actually start having fun. A dying game huh, well I logged in last night PVP virtually all night!!! – 267 on fleet, HEAVING!!!! Mate it was!!! – People are playing it and enjoying it, and I’d rather be a Sith Warrior, fighting Star wars creatures then playing wow, killing 80ft kunfu panda’s and elites which are just the same creatures 50 times enlarged with 20 million HP. – Nothing on wow comes close to hacking people down with sabers, I don’t miss 20k warlock crits 1 bit.

Swotor’s better - Concept / art / feel / Species / Customising / gear / sound / story telling / PVP / Clases / creatures - BETTER - Contents comming - its just BETTER, it just has not been around as long as wow and as finished as wow but ever patch it just gets better.

[Xcitement]

People are impatient, easy to hype up and believes game X is the messiah of games. They join a new MMO and expect it to compare to another (first mistake) that has been through the fire, polished and refined over the years (second mistake). To be honest 2/3 of the people who "try" (and I use the word loosely) new MMOs should of waited for like a year before trying it.

I also enjoyed WoW during my time there but the only criteria I compare games on is how much fun I'm having playing one over the other. I have never understood those who constantly berate a game. If I don't like it I move on. I don't write, I don't call I am just gone. Yet these same people were playing 6hrs a day straight. How can you say a game is crap and be interested in playing for 6hrs straight!?!?!? I don't know about you but if I'm playing a crap game I don't make it past playing for 1hr.

I believe most of these "The game is going Free2Play" claims are just people who are uber cheep and want to play the game but don't want to pay for their enjoyment. The sad thing is it'll make the game worse than what they claim it to be. Let's take STO for example. Sure it got more numbers than before but no real work is being done in the game. They toss out some cash shop stuff like new ships give a new rank here and there but true development in content for the game is bleh. SW:TOR has had more work done, content added in the past 6 months than STO have in the past year. I'm not comparing the 2 just showing how much work was done in each.

Man up people. If this is your form of recreation do not cheep out on it. The investment for a stress reliever is worth it. Don't try to make the game your life. Play and enjoy but also go outside, interact with people not pixels and don't believe that it when people say SW:TOR going Free2Play will "save" the game.


THEY ARE LYING TO YOU!

[SirRobin]

I'm sure my kids will play it when it goes free to fifteen and I'll tinker around. Just not worth $15 a month to me. Maybe if they overhauled space combat too but its just too linear and short for me now.

[Deleted]

I'm sure my kids will play it when it goes free to fifteen and I'll tinker around. Just not worth $15 a month to me. Maybe if they overhauled space combat too but its just too linear and short for me now.

Short? - Ive been playing since its released, and put in a stupid amount of time. Exactly how is it short....so you have full raid gear and war hero do you? whats your secret to aquire all that in a few hours?

[eldeebhasan]

I gave up on SWTOR a long time ago, maybe if it was free I'd go back...

[Deleted]

I'm sure my kids will play it when it goes free to fifteen and I'll tinker around. Just not worth $15 a month to me. Maybe if they overhauled space combat too but its just too linear and short for me now.

I gave up on SWTOR a long time ago, maybe if it was free I'd go back...

For me this is an excuse of ppl that dont have enough €€ to play...

[Darksoldierr]

For me this is an excuse of ppl that dont have enough €€ to play...

To be honest, not everyone can throw out a window 15$ for something like a game every month

[jvbastel]

For me this is an excuse of ppl that dont have enough €€ to play...

Or maybe some people don't think the game is worth the sub fee?
I like SWTOR myself, and I would have no problem to afford the subscription, but I don't think it's really worth the monthly payment.
I think the same about WOW,Rift,Tera,etc. nowadays.

the P2P model is outdated and just greedy, IMO.

[Thornar]

I think SW:ToR is going to suffer from this movement to a Free to Play (F2P) model.

The model works for games that are specifically built, developed and invested in for that purpose. SW:ToR was built to be a subscription based MMO, and changing that from both a technical, investment, development and general point of view wont be easy. The task ahead of them is not going to be a small one, but I feel that SW:ToR really is suffering from major early design fails.

We've all seen how poorly the MMO part of SW:ToR played out. They made it an online, single player game where any interaction with other players was clunky, slow and quite demanding. The issue with today is that World of Warcraft & Rift both offer more in terms of gameplay and stable enjoyment.

People often reply saying: "Well, World of Warcraft took time to get right, so SW:ToR should have the same". Wrong. We live in a world were the MMO Market is now saturated and bloated. If you want to release a MMO you have to build it to be vastly superior then World of Warcraft and Rift, something SW:ToR didn't do.

Going F2P will help them in the short term, but I feel it isn't the end of these troubles. Do they really think that the F2P model will cover for the gaping holes in their game? Sure massive improvements have been made, and continue to get made, but the launch and handling of SW:ToR in my mind has been a shambles, and I personally don't think a F2P model will fix that.

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For me this is an excuse of ppl that dont have enough €€ to play...

Whatever the subscription fee is, you got to ask if it is worth it to you personally. I still play and pay for World of Warcraft through the annual pass because I enjoy it. I would probably try SW:ToR if it went F2P because I don't think it is worth my money.

Money is tight for a lot of people also. We can't underestimate how quickly the bills rack up when you're paying out $15 to a game that has as many issues as it does.

[kouby]

There's combat in SWOTOR ???

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[Deleted]

For me its not about the money, I'm not interested in managing two characters in two different MMO's, I just want to play the storyline, I don't wish to pay for the game nor do I wish to play once the main story line is finished.

[Nasok1986]

Played SWToR for 2 months. People should understand the fact. Subscribe base MMORPG market is going down. WOW losing its base..SWTOR lost a lot. But SWToR is great game, which i would play 5 years ago, when i had time for it and spare money for it. Currently i have job and family..and those 15$ hurts..counting that i can play 30-60 mins a day..i still would play it if it were f2p.

And in future i wont play any subscribe game..be it Titan, WOW2 or anything else.

[inboundpaper]

I wouldn't mind, I get to play and save my 15$ for monster at work or something.

[moff]

I believe swtor has reached the point where it would be more profitable f2p. even I would buy really good looking orange gear, and I hate micro payment. and swtor offers many possibilities for other micropayment stuff, especially star wars related items would probably sell very well. I just hope its only vanity stuff, if you could actually buy weapons or gear that improves your character for combat I would never play it again. but I doubt they'll do that. or at least I hope it, because I actually liked the game. always did, but now more than ever.