Bouncy?

[Grubjuice]

Is it true that the Panderan racial trait make Panderans incabable of dying by falling if they have more than 50% maximum health?

Currently, because fall damage is health percentage based and not based on numbers, and the fact that this racial reduces the damage by half, the most fall damage a Pandaren can take from one fall is 50% of their maximum health.

This appears to be intentional, seeing as unlike other similar skills (class skills, glyphs, etc), it states reduces damage by half and not increases the distance you can fall without taking damage.

http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=107076#comments

[Jay 90]

no.... you take half fall damage if you read the spell.

[Pope]

That's kinda funny.

But I guess they'll just change the calculation or smth.

[Draknalor186]

Does their racial stack with the rogue one?
so u take VERY little from falling?

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Someone go jump off a tall mountain and tell me if the fall damage goes over 100% max health. Actually, hang on and let me check on beta.

Fall damage cannot exceed 100% of your health. And I just jumped from maximum flying mount height on a pandaren, only 50% damage taken.

So yes, you are correct.

[Grubjuice]

no.... you take half fall damage if you read the spell.

the premise was that fall damage is percentage of your health. the amount of damage is never greater than 100% of your total health (baseline) so for a Panderan it is never more than 50% of his total health, so if a panderan has 51% health, no distance of falling could kill him. they should rename the tool tip "Terminal Velocity"

[Tziva]

I don't know how it's calculated exactly. It might not cap out at 100%; higher distances may continue to calculate overkill (or will once live), which would still make some falls fatal. Or it may just be a matter of raising the fatal distance to 50% higher.

I'm not sure how much it would matter if pandas couldn't die by falling damage, though. Unless Blizzard made a fight like Archimonde again, I don't think it would be overpowered in too many circumstances.

I guess maybe in AB LM. But even then, you'd be pretty hurt.

[Grubjuice]

Someone go jump off a tall mountain and tell me if the fall damage goes over 100% max health. Actually, hang on and let me check on beta.

Fall damage cannot exceed 100% of your health. And I just jumped from maximum flying mount height on a pandaren, only 50% damage taken.

So yes, you are correct.

I love empirical testing.
This will be soo much fun if i it is not fixed before i get a chance to play with it!

[Sam the Wiser]

Talk about OP racial for AB lol

[Grubjuice]

You will need to fall from a height of that would cause 200% to any other race.

I don't know what the minimum height is to kill you but the going down achievement requires you to fall 65 yards and not die.

So lets just assume you any race aside from pandas would die at 70 yards.

A panda only takes half the damage of the fall, so at 70 yards they would be at 50%.

To die from 100% health a panda would have to be at 140 yards.

*disclaimer-Not at all sure if my heights are correct, imagine they are, this would be ho it works

this presumes fall damage can overkill.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Talk about OP racial for AB lol

Not only AB. There's a certain old raid where falling was a major mechanic (Mount Hyjal, Archimonde).

---------- Post added 2012-07-09 at 02:46 PM ----------

this presumes fall damage can overkill.

It can't. From the highest height a player can normally reach (without say jumping off Ironforge mountain) it is still restricted to 100% of your health.

[AutomaticBadger]

I want to see a rogue doing this. Should result with 25% total. I might be wrong since I'm not really caring about what my multiplication is.

If I am right wouldn't that mean that rogues who choose to be pandas may actually be able to not only survive but solo the hardest boss in wow? The dreaded elevator boss.

[smegdawg]

DAM YOU GRUB!

just deleted the post since someone tested that it is indeed impossible to die from falling as a panda.

Does a Priest bubble absorb fall damage?

[Grubjuice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQl0TfHYpzM

here is a pretty suscinct video of a falling Pandaran.

[reckoner04]

Well if Pandaren can't die, then Rogues can't die either, right? At 100%. Fail logic. You have to test it.

[leaks]

It's not really op at all. Just seems like a fun racial.

[Tziva]

Well if Pandaren can't die, then Rogues can't die either, right? At 100%. Fail logic. You have to test it.

Fall damage for rogues is "can survive distances from a greater height" not "halves fall damage." They aren't the same. The wording is different and the calculation is different.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Well if Pandaren can't die, then Rogues can't die either, right? At 100%. Fail logic. You have to test it.

I did, Pandaren do not die.

---------- Post added 2012-07-09 at 02:52 PM ----------

Fall damage for rogues is "can survive distances from a greater height" not "halves fall damage." They aren't the same. The wording is different and the calculation is different.

I'd assume for Rogues it just increases the distance before fall damage claculations start by 25%. So from high enough it'd still deal 100% damage. Pandaren get a flat half of the damage. And half of 100% is 50%.

[Grubjuice]

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In whatever they do

[Hoticehunter]

I want to see a rogue doing this. Should result with 25% total. I might be wrong since I'm not really caring about what my multiplication is.

If I am right wouldn't that mean that rogues who choose to be pandas may actually be able to not only survive but solo the hardest boss in wow? The dreaded elevator boss.

The rogue and cat form fall damage prevention works differently. Theirs increases the height needed to fall before taking damage and then calculates fall damage normally from there. The Pandaren one is working differently from theirs, which is why there's so much confusion regarding the racial.