You're the fifty-first person to ask that in this thread. There's endless pages of backstory written by Tolkien. Appendices etc...
also new trailer http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=93288
You're the fifty-first person to ask that in this thread. There's endless pages of backstory written by Tolkien. Appendices etc...
also new trailer http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=93288
The fact that people are moaning about three movies proves they either haven't read Tolkien's work or are just not fans of it. For me, the more time spent in the Middle-earth universe the better. Heck, make it into twenty movies and I'd be even happier cuz we all know there's plenty of stories to tell.
A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies. The man who never reads lives only one.
Battle of five armies: Dwarves fighting to keep smaug's loot after "they" vanquished him, Men of Laketown wanting reparations for the destruction smaug rained on them over the years and in recognition of the fact Bard was the one that actually killed Smaug in the end, the Elves also looking for reparations from the ravages of Smaug from over the years, Orcs with Worgs because hey dragon is dead let's kill people and steal the riches, and the Eagles to help the Dwarves, Elves, and Men fight the Orcs.
At least that is how I recall it
Im sure the goblins of moria also come to the battle of 5 armies but i havent read the book in like 5 years and i dont know were my copy has gone
I don't think the goblins of moria were really there yet. I mean after the events of the Hobbit is when Dain (I think it was Dain?) went to Moria and I "think" they had some period of wealth and good times there before they got wiped out. At least Gimli makes it sound like he had been there when things were good pre-goblins. But yea it has been a long time so I'd have to recheck as well.
You say that as if it's a bad thing!
Radagast, Radagast, Radagast need i say more ?
Balin goes to Moria. They were just beging to colonize it when they fell on the Balrog and the Orcs who were already there. Dain becomes the King under the Mountain after the death of Thorin. I also doubt the orcs from Moria were in the Battle of Five Armies. Moria is rather far from Erebor.
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Radagast who?
Sorry, that was too easy...
Only orcs from Misty Mountains were in the Battle of Five Armies, Gandalf later states that three quarters of orc warriors from Misty Mountains and Gundabad were slain that day, which proved as huge advantage later during war with Sauron (to be precise, orcs of Moria and Misty Mountains are one the same, they were ruled by Azog during War of Orcs and Dwarves, later by his son Bolg). And orcs in Moria were in no shape to mount an offensive/attack with their brethren in Misty Mountains, their numbers were severely depleted during last battle of orcish-dwarven war, when Dain slew Azog.
During War of the Ring, MM orcs were able to just hold Moria, and several of the mountain passes, that's why Fellowship was able to pass relatively unscathed to Lothlorien.
The 5 armies: Wargs, Goblins, Dwarves, Elves, and Men.
Wargs and Goblins were allies and the wargs just suffered the goblins in letting them ride atop them.
Ah that's right thanks.. like I said it's been awhile.
That's a bit of contention. Your way completely forgets that it was the Eagles showing up and fighting is what turned the tide of battle in against the Wargs and Goblins, which at the very least means they should be counted as an Army. The more accepted philosophy is that the Wargs and Goblins showed up together and were fighting together to start with as one army, while the Men, Dwarves, and Elves were originally planning to fight a 3 way battle. It was Wargs & Goblins, Men, Dwarves, Elves, and Eagles.
About the three movie thing, I have no problem with it.
Just look at the average TV series or anime. Game of Thrones for example is 10 hours for the first book and even then it cuts down or squeezes together various things. The Hobbit has many different aspects of it you just can't cut out or else it the movie will be missing a lot. Three films (which I doubt will all be 3 hours long each like LotR, more like 2 hours each unless I missed something) could barely put everything in from the books no matter how small it is.
Just look at it as a movie retelling of a story not in a condensed form. If you don't want to watch it then don't watch it. If you think the first is boring and too long, then don't continue watching it. I just know me and others will watch the movie series and love it no matter how long they make it.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=94283
I'm so excited!
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The Desolation of Smaug is the title of the second film now.
There and Back Again is the third.
HAI U! Didn't see a thread for this, and, well, being the good Samaritan that I am, I want to share this with you: Enjoy
New trailer looks great. I really cant wait to see this film
http://www.thehobbit.com/index.html
Alternate endings for the trailer.
When victory seems worth any sacrifice,
there is a price to be paid for such a gift
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The only problem I had with Lord of the rings is how it ended... Sauron should have at least appeard to try to take over the ring or something like that.... I'll watch hobbit for the lolz but it won't be the same knowing that it all ends in utter crap for me ;/
The book was amazing and I can see why it's considered a true classic. Hopefully the movie follows it fairly close. I can't wait either.