U.S. Presidential race - Democrat Discussion

[Wells]

My job is to be so persuasive that if there's anybody left out there
who is still not sure whether they will vote, or is still not clear who
they will vote for, that a light will shine through that window, a beam
of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany," said Obama in New Hampshire , "and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama."

If you can't see this for the joke that it is then god help you.

[Kalyyn]

Show me these people claiming Obama is going to turn the world into a perfect socialist utopia. Fucking idiotic hyperbole is fucking idiotic hyperbole.

Woah dude, calm down. I've never been disrespectful to you, and I'm not going to have a conversation with you if you're going to be a dick to me. You're taking this way too personally.

Let's assume, for the moment, that this is the case. Why in the world would it be a useful or reasonable means of engaging the posters on the stickied threads? I don't charge in saying, "LOLZ DENY EVOLUTION MOAR IDIOTS" even though that's actually a statistically sizeable portion of the conservative base. I was taught to give the person you're talking to the benefit of the doubt until they prove they don't deserve it.

Hey man it's cool, just chill. I don't in any way support that kind of rhetoric. I'm just saying that Obama had a lot of uneducated fanatics during the last election. Not just the usual election fanatics, but people who were downright psychotic about it. If you don't remember them, then I'm jealous of your ability to repress those memories. A quick google search turns up about ten thousand different hip hop songs written in 2008, most of which use "he's gonna chaaaaaange the woooooorld" as their main chorus.

If somebody was coming in here talking down to you guys like you were one of those people, then fuck 'em. That's not cool with me. You guys are all very intelligent and I hold a good deal of respect for all of you. Whether they're Republican or not, I'm not going to side with somebody who comes in here and makes an ass of themselves. I'm on your side here.

Damn, you guys turned on me fast. Here I was thinking y'all kinda liked me

[Naxere]

If you can't see this for the joke that it is then god help you.

If I were you, I'd keep your assumptions to yourself if you think I buy into that. All I was pointing out was that's where the joking about Obama being the Messiah comes from.

[Wells]

Its not used just as joking though. Its treated like some kind of criticism of the left.

And another reason Hannity is an objectively awful person.

[Naxere]

If you can't see some of the cult of personality surrounding Obama and how he can do no wrong in some peoples' eyes, then yes, there is some criticism there in mocking the Obama worship.

[Spectral]

Damn, you guys turned on me fast. Here I was thinking y'all kinda liked me

Just to be clear, not turning on you at all... just arguing a specific point.

Looking back at the dialogue, I may have moved the goalposts. I didn't ask, "does this position make sense?", I asked "where's this shit come from?" and you did your best to answer. No rage deserved from me, and I didn't intend to communicate any.

[Wells]

If you can't see some of the cult of personality surrounding Obama and how he can do no wrong in some peoples' eyes, then yes, there is some criticism there in mocking the Obama worship.

Of course there's some cult of personality. There's some cult of personality around every single famous person in the fucking world. People like TheRiddler however feel like its relevant to drag it up in the most derogatory fashion possible as if its some kind of meaningful criticism. Its just a pathetic attempt to tie the craziest people to the whole of people on the left. Its no better than people who try to claim that right wing militias in some way represent the whole of right wing politics.

[Spectral]

If you can't see some of the cult of personality surrounding Obama and how he can do no wrong in some peoples' eyes, then yes, there is some criticism there in mocking the Obama worship.

I don't personally know these people anymore than I know real live evolution denialists (well, actually, I dated one, but that's another story and she's not eligible for vote anyway). If someone brings up some stereotype that doesn't represent not only me, but no one I even know, what should my reply to them be? Right now, I feel like it should be, "fuck the fuck off, you fucking fucker". Perhaps there's a more polite answer though.

[Wells]

well, actually, I dated one, but that's another story and she's not eligible for vote anyway

ITT: We find out Spectral is a pedo.

[Kalyyn]

Just to be clear, not turning on you at all... just arguing a specific point.

Looking back at the dialogue, I may have moved the goalposts. I didn't ask, "does this position make sense?", I asked "where's this shit come from?" and you did your best to answer. No rage deserved from me, and I didn't intend to communicate any.

Alright. As long as we're cool, everything's good

[Spectral]

ITT: We find out Spectral is a pedo.

Oh, I assumed that was a well known fact!

[obdigore]

Woah dude, calm down. I've never been disrespectful to you, and I'm not going to have a conversation with you if you're going to be a dick to me. You're taking this way too personally.

I'm not angry. My jimmies remain unrustled. I'm just sick of people posting hyperbolic shit and then claiming 'all the lefties' or 'all the righties' or 'all humans' feel that way. If you don't want to be called out for posting hyperbolic stuff, don't post hyperbolic stuff.

[Grizzly Willy]

Can I just say that I wish "my jimmies are un/rustled" would be more widely used?

[Wells]

Can I just say that I wish "my jimmies are un/rustled" would be more widely used?

When I still played wow it got used so much the raid leader started docking DKP.

[obdigore]

When I still played wow it got used so much the raid leader started docking DKP.

Many jimmies have been rustled. Handle it!

[Kalyyn]

I'm not angry. My jimmies remain unrustled. I'm just sick of people posting hyperbolic shit and then claiming 'all the lefties' or 'all the righties' or 'all humans' feel that way. If you don't want to be called out for posting hyperbolic stuff, don't post hyperbolic stuff.

Dude, actually go read my post for god's sake. Come on man, I know you and I know that you're better than this. Regardless of whether or not you're angry, you're being a dick to me when I've said literally nothing that you could possibly find offensive. And because I know you're a reasonable person, I'm inclined to believe that you simply misread what I was saying.

[obdigore]

Dude, actually go read my post for god's sake. Come on man, I know you and I know that you're better than this. Regardless of whether or not you're angry, you're being a dick to me when I've said literally nothing that you could possibly find offensive. And because I know you're a reasonable person, I'm inclined to believe that you simply misread what I was saying.

If you believe that

1) I'm reasonable
2) I'm angry
3) A good person

You don't know me very well at all! I'm an evil killer commie who thinks Obama is the second coming of Mecho-Stalin-Jesus-Mao-Hitler-Kony.

In a side note, can someone be the second coming of someone who is still alive?

[Kalyyn]

If you believe that

1) I'm reasonable
2) I'm angry
3) A good person

You don't know me very well at all! I'm an evil killer commie who thinks Obama is the second coming of Mecho-Stalin-Jesus-Mao-Hitler-Kony.

In a side note, can someone be the second coming of someone who is still alive?

-_- no I... I don't think they can.

[Naxere]

I don't personally know these people anymore than I know real live evolution denialists (well, actually, I dated one, but that's another story and she's not eligible for vote anyway). If someone brings up some stereotype that doesn't represent not only me, but no one I even know, what should my reply to them be? Right now, I feel like it should be, "fuck the fuck off, you fucking fucker". Perhaps there's a more polite answer though.

I feel the same way when people parrot the whole "Obama's a socialist marxist muslim from kenya" crap to mock someone on the Right. Two sides of the same coin imo.

[Titheon]

Presidential elections would be more accurate if we went back to the previous stipulation of people with real property (land) or sufficient wealth for taxation were permitted to vote.