(H) AV Abusing

[cabana]

List ways you use AV to your advantage on heroic fights.

On Feng I like to stay out of the shield about 6 yards away and pop Shadow Bulwark.

On Stone Guard I like to use it when I'm chained.

[Ashnazg]

List ways you use AV to your advantage on heroic fights.

On Feng I like to stay out of the shield about 6 yards away and pop Shadow Bulwark.

On Stone Guard I like to use it when I'm chained.

If you are chained and taking damage, though, the other person is also getting ravaged.

[cabana]

Yes, that's why you pop AV the second you get chained because chances are you are more than 10 yards away at the moment of linkage. Usually takes people 2-3 seconds to come together especially if you are chained to a melee. You don't want to take any chances with a Cobalt Mine. The pool is also a good option but you're going to die after 3 seconds of standing in it with no C/D's.

[Seezer]

Yes, that's why you pop AV the second you get chained because chances are you are more than 10 yards away at the moment of linkage. Usually takes people 2-3 seconds to come together especially if you are chained to a melee. You don't want to take any chances with a Cobalt Mine. The pool is also a good option but you're going to die after 3 seconds of standing in it with no C/D's.

So you're going to get 2.5k-5k damage from it? Doesn't seem worth it. Better off using it on overload.

[Deleted]

So you're going to get 2.5k-5k damage from it? Doesn't seem worth it. Better off using it on overload.

In heroic mode (and even normal mode btw), you're not supposed to get any full dmg Overload.

[Gobuchul]

On Feng I like to stay out of the shield about 6 yards away and pop Shadow Bulwark.

Seriously? By standing outside of the nullification barrier you're deliberately giving up 6 seconds of protection from the 75% miss chance debuff.

[Voidgazer]

Eh, I don't think AV reaches even 1% of my total damage on any fight, even if I put myself in harm's way during heavy raid damage coming in.

In all honesty, warlock T6 talents are probably the worst amongst all calsses.

[Deleted]

I usually have that talent active, but really don't really have an applications for it that could be disproved by "you could have done X instead , would do more deeps".
Notably dotting up another target.

Total anihilation on Elegon ... but meh. not much dmg. Nowadays i take MF on elegon anyways.

[Gohzerlock]

I usually have that talent active, but really don't really have an applications for it that could be disproved by "you could have done X instead , would do more deeps".
Notably dotting up another target.

Total anihilation on Elegon ... but meh. not much dmg. Nowadays i take MF on elegon anyways.

Same, better for hitting orbs with sb seeds. Devs should've realized AV was poorly designed when they had to nerf it to the ground, I feel for them what might've started as an interesting idea didn't translate well. Could sadly be said of most lvl 90 warlock talents. On most heroic modes i'd rather not purposefully do more damage to myself, I wish they'd buff it but specify only reflects damage from the attacker.

Mannorths fury serves some purpose, kjc is still kinda underwhelming even with the buff. At least from a pve standpoint.

[Netherspark]

Please stop doing that. You will only make them nerf if AGAIN. The whole reason it was nerfed from 10/50% was to stop people using it this way. If people keep doing this Blizzard will just end up completely removing all use with AoE damage.

[Grubjuice]

Please stop doing that. You will only make them nerf if AGAIN. The whole reason it was nerfed from 10/50% was to stop people using it this way. If people keep doing this Blizzard will just end up completely removing all use with AoE damage.

eventually it will be nerfed so hard that it will just be replaced with a different ability all together.

so it goes.

[Jessicka]

eventually it will be nerfed so hard that it will just be replaced with a different ability all together.

so it goes.

I wouldn't cry over that. It doesn't exactly feel amazing to see the big purple lightning strike hit someone for a paltry 300 damage, and it doesn't even work off your pet where it might actually be vaguely more useful being they're susceptable to taking damage from random stuff.

I guess you could macro it to UR regardless if you want to get something out of the on use.

And while I'm on the matter, since UW works for your pet with Soul Link, wouldn't it make sense for all these abilities to also; rather than have your pet as a means to bypass them?

[pokeadott]

Yeah, AV really just sucks these days. it fits in well with our lvl 90 crapfest tho

The ability is just so underwhelming in every application now - it needs a complete revamp to ever be fun.

[cabana]

Seriously? By standing outside of the nullification barrier you're deliberately giving up 6 seconds of protection from the 75% miss chance debuff.

I do about 140K through AV doing this, not only that, but you can cast MG right before the debuff goes out or even drain soul if you are desperate for shards. If you time it right you can avoid missing.

[Gohzerlock]

I do about 140K through AV doing this, not only that, but you can cast MG right before the debuff goes out or even drain soul if you are desperate for shards. If you time it right you can avoid missing.

your healers must just love you

[cabana]

your healers must just love you

You can survive with a Shadow Bulwark, minimal healing required. Not that big deal at all.

[Netherspark]

You can survive with a Shadow Bulwark, minimal healing required. Not that big deal at all.

Meaning Blizzard will likely nerf Shadow Bulwark and Unending Resolve too...

Seriously, this is why we can't have nice things. Stop fucking it up for the rest of us!

[cabana]

Man up and use it.

[Voidgazer]

140k once in two minutes is nothing. It's absolutely not worth risking your life on some encounters, especially in heroic mode, just to get a miniscule increase in DPS, if any at all.

I'm not really sure where's OP getting at. Maybe he's just trying to get the required post count to post links or something?

[cabana]

140k once in two minutes is nothing. It's absolutely not worth risking your life on some encounters, especially in heroic mode, just to get a miniscule increase in DPS, if any at all.

I'm not really sure where's OP getting at. Maybe he's just trying to get the required post count to post links or something?

Not really we have a level 90 talent we should be using to our advantage. A DPS increase is a DPS increase. You're not risking your life if you know what you're doing.