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  1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by poser765 View Post
    Doesn't even have to be water. I simply switched from water to diet soda and I've lost about 20 pounds in the last month and a half.
    Diet soda?

    I rather drink water...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    So what's the point of the thread again?
    Nothing. This entire discussion is pointless to an extent.

    Except perhaps the whole HFCS vs sugar thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolkingler1 View Post
    Nothing. This entire discussion is pointless to an extent.

    Except perhaps the whole HFCS vs sugar thing.
    that is beyond moot, like there is no significant difference between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorensen View Post
    that is beyond moot, like there is no significant difference between the two.
    I know multiple people have said that, but what about the researches which prove different? Of course the tests were performed on rats, but still, they did become obese rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dercaderca View Post
    Sugar is not good for you. At all.
    Incorrect, small amount of sugar each day is healthy.

    If i remember correctly then there's more than one type of sugar which is more healthy than the other. Still i can be wrong, it was a few years ago i since i studied home economics after all.

  6. #306
    Quote Originally Posted by coolkingler1 View Post
    I know multiple people have said that, but what about the researches which prove different? Of course the tests were performed on rats, but still, they did become obese rats.
    More obese rats**

    I've tried debating with him but he keeps repeating the same thing over and over without sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    More obese rats**

    I've tried debating with him but he keeps repeating the same thing over and over without sources.
    Evidence does not indicate it is less healthy than sugar consumption in general. Concerns mainly center around excessive sugar intake and its contribution to obesity.

    The only difference is that you have to use an enzyme to process sucrose first where HFCS you don't, the only difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorensen View Post
    Evidence does not indicate it is less healthy than sugar consumption in general. Concerns mainly center around excessive sugar intake and its contribution to obesity.

    The only difference is that you have to use an enzyme to process sucrose first where HFCS you don't, the only difference.
    I linked sources saying otherwise, yet you keep posting without supporting evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    I linked sources saying otherwise, yet you keep posting without supporting evidence.
    you linked one decription of a single study, not even the actual study, you really haven't linked anything.

    Here is a website of information for you. http://www.sweetsurprise.com/


    FACTS!

  10. #310
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorensen View Post
    Here is a website of information for you. http://www.sweetsurprise.com/
    Yeah, a website run by the Corn Refiners Association (CRA). Think they might be a little bias?

    My source is from an Ivy League research university (Princeton).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Yeah, a website run by the Corn Refiners Association (CRA). Think they might be a little bias?
    Nope. not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorensen View Post
    Nope. not at all.
    So you think, a website run by corn growers on a product made by corn has no bias whatsoever? Especially when compared to data obtained from independent research studies?

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    People drink whole 2 litter bottles of coke ? wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    So you think, a website run by corn growers on a product made by corn has no bias whatsoever? Especially when compared to data obtained from independent research studies?
    http://www.sweetsurprise.com/hfcs-myths-and-facts

    Page full of independent researchers on HFCS, not one description of a study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorensen View Post
    http://www.sweetsurprise.com/hfcs-myths-and-facts

    Page full of independent researchers on HFCS, not one description of a study.
    On a corn growers associations website! You seriously think they don't cherrypick?

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    fine, here from the mayo clinic
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hig...-syrup/AN01588

    At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners.

    From consumer reports analysing the other website I posted

    http://news.consumerreports.org/heal...ructose-c.html

    and another

    http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/...les.asp?id=486
    Last edited by Sorensen; 2012-11-16 at 07:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorensen View Post
    fine, here from the mayo clinic
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hig...-syrup/AN01588

    At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners.
    There's also no proof to say it's "the same thing".

    Hopefully this one isn't too hard to read. http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/79/4/537.long

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    There's also no proof to say it's "the same thing".

    Hopefully this one isn't too hard to read. http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/79/4/537.long
    ok, then how do you explain the fact that less consumpion of HFCS has happened and obesity continues to rise, and the fact that obesity is rising in other parts of the world where HFCS is not used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorensen View Post
    ok, then how do you explain the fact that less consumpion of HFCS has happened and obesity continues to rise, and the fact that obesity is rising in other parts of the world where HFCS is not used?
    Yeah, you're going to need to prove that one.

    That shit is in everything (seemingly) these days, even ketchup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Yeah, you're going to need to prove that one.

    That shit is in everything (seemingly) these days, even ketchup.
    because of the negative press most companies are taking it out of their products, Heinz and most ketchup companies are doing it.

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