People "quitting" over Cross Realm Zones - who else is laughing?

[adorich]

Xrealm is amazing, zones are alive, there is wpvp occasionally, it's just that much better.

If people think that farming ore/herbs is their #1 concern, they should really question why they play warcraft.

(Back in BC on isle of quel'danas, if a Khorium node spawned, people would literally fight over it for 15 minutes)

In Isle of Quel'danas mobs spawned instantly at times if enough players were around. Crzs are only counting players from their own server. There could be 10 players waiting for mobs to spawn and the zone's server is still reading 0 players in the area.

You're right about nodes/herbs in Quel'danas being rare, but we also had 4 other less filled zones to farm in. With CRZ every zone is Quel'danas, but mobs, pets, rare spawns, nodes and herbs are spawning really slow. When I need low lvl ore I have to check the AH, then hope my server's bot got lucky and was able to farm the ore I need.

I doubt Blizzard intended this, but they appear happy with CRZ and it's bugs. As long as people keep saying, "pvp on a pvp server; deal with it" Blizzard will keep CRZ, while ignoring the many negatives CRZ brings that have nothing to do with Pvp. If CRZ worked as well as Quel'danas did in BC, people wouldn't be complaining like they are now.

[alturic]

Sound like an addict making excuses to keep your addiction going. Trust me there is better out there - and at the very least, taking a good long break from WoW should reset your perspective.

No, there really isn't better (MMOs) out there. The only, and I repeat, ONLY MMO that comes close to capturing me like WoW once did was Rift, and even then it just doesn't "feel" as dynamic/fluid as WoW does. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game (maxed a toon out, so it's not like I got to level 10 and loled at it) but it just doesn't "capture" it for me.

An addict? Of what exactly? WoW? If I was addicted to WoW, I don't think I'd get bored of it, try something new and then go back within days just to be bored of it within 48 hours.

Now, if you're saying an addict of gaming, sure I'd agree with ya there.

---------- Post added 2012-11-17 at 10:24 PM ----------

Huh?

I just upgraded my 3 accounts and running it for 30 days. If it pans out I might resub, but as I told my sis, I really don't want to play WoW at this point. If Blizzard had a WotLK only expansion realm, I'd be happy there playing. Not this bouncing all over the universe with little consistency, let alone never knowing home will be blown up next deal. Blizzard is so inconsistent with changing "comfort zones" I can't trust them in blowing up their IP just for kicks. -_-

---------- Post added 2012-11-17 at 07:48 PM ----------



Or better, refund my $25 for transfering to a faction dominated realm to be free of ganking (as the reprecussions are nasty).

Oh no, you said you got 30 days for free, figured you got a whole new account.

[Deleted]

PvP happend in realms made for open world PvP. Working as intended. If you don't like open world PvP, don't play on realms specifically made for open world PvP.

Problem solved.

Everytime someone labels "I'm a mighty imba roxX0r slaughter machine who, gets bullied in school and is too bad for real PvP so I go kill enemies 50 levels below me for an hour!" as PvP, I die a little inside.

/edit: eased my spelling. Not gonna get banned for this.

[jazen]

brand new feature with some kinks to work out.

[Suikoden]

Yeah some major kinks to work out. >.>;

[Gsara]

Is it just me or are people crying about getting getting ganked on a PvP server? Seems like they would, you know, go play on a carebear server so they wouldnt have to come here crying about the shit anymore.

The CRZ is fine, needs some work yes, but its not game breaking.

[Conscious]

Is it just me or are people crying about getting getting ganked on a PvP server? Seems like they would, you know, go play on a carebear server so they wouldnt have to come here crying about the shit anymore.

Considering they're still having issues with PvE and PvP servers randomly merging, I don't think it has anything to do with choice.

[Gsara]

potentially getting ganked as you level - fair play

ganking causing you to be denied what you are legally entitled too (i.e. what you paid for) - not justified by any means


sadly, nothing can be done. Morality goes down the drain when gamers have the power to dominate over other players. Look at GY camping in bgs for instance.

Maybe you should sue Blizzard for not getting what is rightfully yours. Just what are you paying for that being ganked fucks you out of? Mobs, gathering mats? Those arent an issue on pve servers.

[ChaosEater]

I don' know why you would laugh, i'm sure on some servers it's a perfectly legitimate reason. Some people choose their servers based on faction populations and overall activity, which is something CRZ changed. It would seem justified to not be happy with that, especially when the alternative is paying actual money to go to a different server, which may or may not be in the same boat as your last one.

Thankfully, I am on a low population pvp server (even with CRZ the activity is dismal) so only have to deal with an occasional ganking while on an alt. Unfortunately, it would seem like alot of players aren't as lucky and to dismiss their frustration with a change they couldn't have stopped or probably even expected when they first chose that server, is abit nonsensical.

[Amsden]

Bullshit.

B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.

Blasted lands. Ready to cross the dark portal. 40 deaths trying to cross it. 30 deaths while levelling. 70 fuckin deaths due to a group of lvl 90 horde assholes ganking lowbies like there's no tomorrow. Thanks to your 'loved' CRZ 'feature'. The whole place is a cemetery flooded with corpses. Thanks to another fiasco feature: CRZ.

One thing is PvP. Another one is WPvP. But being ganked like a pig, and being unable to progress in a game THAT I'M PAYING EACH AND EVERY MONTH, is a fuckin' different one.

So, no. Fuck this feature.

Quest to 60 in silithus instead of blasted lands and get a mage to send you to outlands problem solved.

[Namarus]

I'm curious as to whether any low level characters are actually grouping with ppl cross realm via CRZ. I mean this is the reason that they said they brought in CRZ but when I leveled my characters I just don't bother. It is much faster xp to solo.

[Eaglehorn]

There is no need for group quests anymore so what is the point of CRZ's? Everything that was group-oriented is now soloable, especially with BoA gear. The only thing that's different is that now you need to compete with others for mob-tagging and have to play in constant fear that some 90 will fly down and 1 shot you outta nowhere. While Blizzard designed CRZ's with good intentions, they grossly underestimated how pitiful the WoW community has become.

[LazarusLong]

Huh?

I just upgraded my 3 accounts and running it for 30 days. If it pans out I might resub, but as I told my sis, I really don't want to play WoW at this point. If Blizzard had a WotLK only expansion realm, I'd be happy there playing. Not this bouncing all over the universe with little consistency, let alone never knowing home will be blown up next deal. Blizzard is so inconsistent with changing "comfort zones" I can't trust them in blowing up their IP just for kicks. -_-

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Or better, refund my $25 for transfering to a faction dominated realm to be free of ganking (as the reprecussions are nasty).

If you don't like wow how about stop posting crap and move on?


But for the record, I think there should be option for free transfers. But not because of CRZ.

[Deleted]

Really? haha oh man... If you ask me they are using CRZ as an excuse to quit. In reality they are burned out of wow and need a break, or quit completely. Hell a few months ago they were all crying for more world pvp! Now when they got what they wanted they dont want it anymore..

"I want to play with that toy because another kid is playing with that toy so i want it until he plays with something else then i want that!"

[Kevyne-Shandris]

If you don't like wow how about stop posting crap and move on?


But for the record, I think there should be option for free transfers. But not because of CRZ.

I can say the same about blind fanbois. Will you appreciate that?

Free transfers wouldn't matter, because CRZ affects all the realms now.

What happened to these 10 million players? MoP is deader than dead even at prime time. Saw like 6 players in 6hrs. Stormwind is still more populated. Here in the heart of Panda land there is nothing but NPCs.

[Scrumps]

I won't quit because of CRZ. but I gotta say that the getting booted off my mounts changing zones is really shitting me.

[Mmoplayer111]

I can say the same about blind fanbois. Will you appreciate that?

Free transfers wouldn't matter, because CRZ affects all the realms now.

What happened to these 10 million players? MoP is deader than dead even at prime time. Saw like 6 players in 6hrs. Stormwind is still more populated. Here in the heart of Panda land there is nothing but NPCs.

Screenshot with timestamp or it didn't happen. Also, funny thing, Soooooo many people don't realize there is a portal room in the vale.

For years I read thread after thread about world pvp and how it was dead, now you're dealing with it and can't handle it. You got used to pvp meaning getting it when you want it. You know that is a PvE server right? You are on a PVP server which means you take the risk of getting beat down the moment you set foot out of a capital city. Hell, you take a risk of getting killed IN a capital city because you ASKED for it.

If you can't handle getting ganked and corpse camped then transfer cause clearly PVP "does not mean what you think it means".

[eschatological]

If you can't find a way through the Dark Portal, you should probably have your brain donated to science because it's not doing you any good.

When I hit the same "problem" on my latest alt, I just flew to the nearest city of my faction and rode into the crater from.....*gasp* a different angle. Everyone is camping the fucking part where you zone in if you take the portal from SW/Org, no one's looking for the guy who circles all the way around the crater, takes a bit of fall damage, and sidles into the portal. No stealth, no one to defend me, nothing.

Even if you get continually camped over and over again, you can rezz about 20 yards from your body - if you're not rezzing 20 yards closer to the portal than you died, you're doing it wrong. Definitely wouldn't take 40 deaths to cross the crater from the spawn to the portal.

[xanzul]

I don't even imagine what kind of satisfaction could get a group of assholes constantly ganking lowbies for several minutes, really. Real life frustation?, a need of bigger ePenis?, incompetent raiders (even for LFR)? ... who the hell knows.

And this attitude right here is far more harassing and detrimental to this community than ganking ever could be. Who the fuck do you think you are?

---------- Post added 2012-11-18 at 01:19 AM ----------

Before CRZ people chose to transfer/raise their alts on faction dominated servers to mininumize the ganking.

With CRZ that no longer is an option for raising alts. You can't blame people being upset if they chose something that existed, then doesn't at a flick of a finger -- especially if they paid extra.

I went ahead and got MoP, and going to test CRZ out after 3 months of updates (30 days free, so not really resubbing). Will have an update on this matter before then.

I don't give a fuck what people did before cross realm zones in regards to pvp realms. It was never ever intended for realms to be low pop in the first place and just because Blizzard did nothing about the fact empty zones were hurting world pvp doesn't change the fact that pvp is supposed to happen on pvp realms and no amount of crying and screaming and stamping your feet over it is EVER going to change that fact. It is high time for players to become responsible for their choices and if they signed up for a pvp realm they are going to get a pvp realm whether they like it or not.

---------- Post added 2012-11-18 at 01:22 AM ----------

ganking and killing people while they are on loading screens isn't pvp.

it's fucking dumb.

And yet Blizzard hasn't changed the game one iota to resolve that "issue" in over 5 years. It is a valid tactic to ignite world pvp at least it used to be until whiny little bitches decided running to the forums to cry about it was a better solution than getting their friends to come help them.

---------- Post added 2012-11-18 at 01:24 AM ----------

Tested? Or what happened with Cata, where folks were more searching for exploits than reporting bugs?

Went in this morning to play some in Panda land, and if folks think seeing anything from gray tabards in the cut scenes to poor, poor, poor storytelling is "AAA" they simply don't know quality. Chinese motifs and Japanese names for critters, agh, what I feared in yet another Western take of Asia (but of course they'll ignore the bugs, and just hype the looks, again).

Why on earth do you still play this game? All you have done for 3 years is bitch and whine and cty about it to the point even Blizzard got sick of it and perm banned you.

---------- Post added 2012-11-18 at 01:26 AM ----------

- lag
- bots
- bugs (passenger dismount ESPECIALLY!!!!!)
- griefing (or "pvp" as some people here like to call it)

When my brother was leveling up he would get ganked about every 10 minutes.
normal people do not like to put up with this bullshit. especially when there is absolutely no benefit to having other players around, all the mobs are just fucking pushovers. and grouping up so you dont get griefed? griefing was not a HUGE problem before CRZ was implemented anyway.

People like you and a few other serial whiners are hurting those with valid complaints about cross realm zones. Bots and "griefing" and pvp are NOT valid complaints about cross realm zones and were happening BEFORE they were implemented. Shame on you.

---------- Post added 2012-11-18 at 01:30 AM ----------

potentially getting ganked as you level - fair play

ganking causing you to be denied what you are legally entitled too (i.e. what you paid for) - not justified by any means


sadly, nothing can be done. Morality goes down the drain when gamers have the power to dominate over other players. Look at GY camping in bgs for instance.

Part of the play experience on pvp realms is pvp and ganking IS pvp whether you kiddies like it or not. Check out the policy on harassment on pvp realms sometime. You will be shocked to find out being ganked/camped for hours on end is NOT harassment and is in fact fully intended to be part of being on pvp realms. Again don't like it? GTFO. You were never supposed to be on a pvp realm in the first place.

---------- Post added 2012-11-18 at 01:37 AM ----------

Considering they're still having issues with PvE and PvP servers randomly merging, I don't think it has anything to do with choice.

Yeah no. That bug was fixed quite some time ago but I shouldn't be surprised about you lying through your teeth again.

---------- Post added 2012-11-18 at 01:39 AM ----------

I can say the same about blind fanbois. Will you appreciate that?

Free transfers wouldn't matter, because CRZ affects all the realms now.

What happened to these 10 million players? MoP is deader than dead even at prime time. Saw like 6 players in 6hrs. Stormwind is still more populated. Here in the heart of Panda land there is nothing but NPCs.

People who enjoy the game aren't "blind fanbois" but there is a word for people like you but I would prefer not to get myself banned.

[ReleaseDay]

The CRZ is fine, needs some work yes, but its not game breaking.

yeah. On low populated realms our biggest problem is the lack of a trading system, the lack of AH and no CRZ-Trading allowed. That and ofc bots.


so i wish they would allow CRZ-Trading