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  1. #61
    10/10 would bang.

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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Baergrillz View Post
    next we'll have the first Rapist, first Pedophile, first Beastiality congressperson. Why can't someone marry a cat or dog they just like anyone else right? Gender don't matter sex doesn't matter why should another species matter right? /facepalm
    What the fuck are you on about.

    Rape, illegal, paedophile acting on their feelings, illegal, sex with animals, illegal. Having a partner that is the same sex as you, OH THE HUMANITY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnorei View Post
    Good for her, but a question, why did you remove the "o" in God and left it as G-d? I mean what, some people are so anti-religion now you censor the name?
    http://bit.ly/U3FQ3r Little google help for you.

    It's a sign of respect to God.

    Mod Warning: Please refrain from making "Let me Google that for you" posts.
    Last edited by Wikiy; 2012-11-24 at 01:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    It still pisses me off that people feel the need to make these kind of distinctions. We're all different, stop making a big fucking deal and get on with life.
    Your post might make some sense if the rest of us had an equal opportunity to get on with (or start a) proper life.

  4. #64
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    Ofcourse, there is a lot less bigotry from men about the sexual preferences of women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yirrah View Post
    Someones sexual preferences or activities, so long as they are not illegal and does not impair the persons abillity to perform his or her job, should not have any bearing on their job. In short, this should not be news.
    That's true but only someone who lives in a perfect world like Equestria, and not planet Earth, would think human beings can be logical and not subjected to their own values, mostly being wrong.

    God, that show should be banned for ages 9 and up, it just turns kids into delusional fools who know nothing about the REAL and ugly world.
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  5. #65
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    I don't really care if she is the first bisexual congresswoman or not, I just hope people didn't pick her because she is considered beautiful or bi, if so, then I hope she quits her job. :x

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by gruyaka View Post
    It is relevant. If someone describes themself as merely straight or merely homosexual then there is no sliding scale. If someone says they're bisexual then a sliding scale becomes relevant to determine how gay or straight they are. But for those (the majority of people), that only identify with one sexuality, then the sliding scale is both irrelevant and inapplicable.

    You can't force people to be considered bisexual because of an arbitrary set of "factors". Sexuality is something that is completely self-identified.
    No, that's just moronic. You've subtly changed from "sexuality can only be self-defined" in your previous post to "sexuality... is completely self-identified", which is just being disingenuous. If a man (who identifies as a man 100%) only feels attracted to women but self-identifies as a homosexual, are you saying he therefore must be considered a homosexual man? No. He is a heterosexual, because that's what he is according to what he expressed is his sexuality.

    I would agree that a person's sexuality can only be defined by themselves. However, it is the rest of us who apply labels like homosexual, heterosexual and bisexual to that person based on what they defined their sexual orientation to be. And what has became apparent is that sexual orientation of humans is on a continuous spectrum that does not fall neatly into just three distinct groups. Someone who identifies as a heterosexual but feels attraction to another person of the same gender is on a sliding scale regardless of their professed identification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    I don't really care if she is the first bisexual congresswoman or not, I just hope people didn't pick her because she is considered beautiful or bi, if so, then I hope she quits her job. :x
    Heh. I thought elected officials are supposed to lose their jobs only when they committed some major wrong, or when they fail to serve the public they represent. Apparently supposedly getting votes from people for the "wrong" reasons is also a reason to quit.

  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    Heh. I thought elected officials are supposed to lose their jobs only when they committed some major wrong, or when they fail to serve the public they represent. Apparently supposedly getting votes from people for the "wrong" reasons is also a reason to quit.
    I really don't know and, to be honest, if she got eletected because of those two reasons, it doesn't matter, I think, as long as she can do her job well, that's what should matter really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    Heh. I thought elected officials are supposed to lose their jobs only when they committed some major wrong, or when they fail to serve the public they represent. Apparently supposedly getting votes from people for the "wrong" reasons is also a reason to quit.
    It is if they are under-qualified to boot (not saying she is, I know nothing about her). But, if politicians lost their jobs regularly for that reason, Capitol Hill would appear to be abandoned...

    Anyway, one openly atheist and one openly bisexual member of Congress. That's progress. Very slight progress, but still progress.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Baiyn View Post
    It is if they are under-qualified to boot (not saying she is, I know nothing about her). But, if politicians lost their jobs regularly for that reason, Capitol Hill would appear to be abandoned...
    If they are not capable of doing the job then they shouldn't be voted into office in the first place. If they are already in, then why call for resignations before they even did anything wrong? Again, I don't understand this logic of firing an elected representative before they even did anything (or at least, when they are not about to do anything wrong).

    It's not like elective office is a college degree with clearly defined prerequisites that a candidate need to qualify for. Saying someone is unqualified is just a subjective, meaninglessly unspecific attack. And while I appreciate you changed your mind to say it doesn't matter, Majad (and so this part isn't directed at you), all this "people voted her because she's bi and beautiful" crap really just comes across as excuses to put down her victory.

    I mean, I don't recall anyone saying any male heterosexual politicians should resign if people only picked them because they're good looking. Most people usually have the good graces to invent lies like "he's born in Kenya".

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    It's not like elective office is a college degree with clearly defined prerequisites that a candidate need to qualify for. Saying someone is unqualified is just a subjective, meaninglessly unspecific attack. And while I appreciate you changed your mind to say it doesn't matter, Majad (and so this part isn't directed at you), all this "people voted her because she's bi and beautiful" crap really just comes across as excuses to put down her victory.
    I know that the "people voted her because she's bi and beautiful" might sound crap, but I think it's pretty absurd that people vote for someone because of that.

    That doesn't change the fact that the person might be qualified for the job(or not), despite being voted or won because "people voted her because she's bi and beautiful", so yeah, we just need to see how it goes, taking the person out of the office/job right away because of those reasons isn't a very good idea.

    But yeah, I understand why people might have voted because she's bi and/or beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Jim View Post
    Ofcourse, there is a lot less bigotry from men about the sexual preferences of women.

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    That's true but only someone who lives in a perfect world like Equestria, and not planet Earth, would think human beings can be logical and not subjected to their own values, mostly being wrong.

    God, that show should be banned for ages 9 and up, it just turns kids into delusional fools who know nothing about the REAL and ugly world.
    You did perhaps not read my post? If it impares the persons abillity to do the job, the person should be removed from the position. If not, it should have no bearing. Nice jab at MLP too, bet you feel real proud of that, even if it has no bearing whatsoever on what is being discussed, eh?

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    But yeah, I understand why people might have voted because she's bi and/or beautiful.
    Yes, but people say this a lot more often, and a lot more negatively, than when talking about, say, a handsome male politician.

  13. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    Yes, but people say this a lot more often, and a lot more negatively, than when talking about, say, a handsome male politician.
    I really have no idea because I always try not to judge/base a person's ideas/ideals based their look, or because of their sexual orientation.

  14. #74
    It just ridiculous that anyone would have a problem with her sexuality regarding her job / what ever shes been elected for

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  15. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    http://bit.ly/U3FQ3r Little google help for you.

    It's a sign of respect to God.
    Oh, I didn't know that, thanks for clearing it out. I thought it was the other way around, censoring it, seems I was wrong.

  16. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    If they are not capable of doing the job then they shouldn't be voted into office in the first place. If they are already in, then why call for resignations before they even did anything wrong? Again, I don't understand this logic of firing an elected representative before they even did anything (or at least, when they are not about to do anything wrong).
    I don't think Majad was talking about firing her, I think he was saying if she felt she was only voted in because she's attractive and ticks a political correctness box, she might consider stepping down/declining. Not force her to resign because she might have been voted for because of those reasons (not exactly something that can be determined without considerable, pointless effort).

    Also, didn't loads of people think Obama wouldn't be able to hack it because he was too young or hadn't served in the army and various qualities like that which are unrelated to presidential competency? People will be cynical about and turn their noses up at anything that threatens the status quo.

  17. #77
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    Why is this a big deal? Dafuq do you care what sexual orientation are the political people? What difference does it make? Why should this be news anyway? It's like making a fuss about a horse taking a shit.

  18. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by someotherguy View Post
    http://www.advocate.com/politics/pol...-congresswoman

    http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#...gresswoman.cnn
    In the cnn's video, she even dodged the "Do you believe in G-d?" question.

    And she's a congresswoman of Arizona - that's the same state that has been in the news for a while on super conservative stands on illegal immigrants.

    I guess it's not news, as it's over a week old, but surprised me when I saw it just today. At least in that state it's surprising.
    Good to see some parts of the US making progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headswillroll View Post
    Why is this a big deal? Dafuq do you care what sexual orientation are the political people? What difference does it make? Why should this be news anyway? It's like making a fuss about a horse taking a shit.
    A big part of the US is Christian, some parts a lot more than others, to be elected to congress and being openly "deviant" is quite big. Ofcourse, here in Sweden no-one'd give a crap.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Baiyn View Post
    I don't think Majad was talking about firing her, I think he was saying if she felt she was only voted in because she's attractive and ticks a political correctness box, she might consider stepping down/declining. Not force her to resign because she might have been voted for because of those reasons (not exactly something that can be determined without considerable, pointless effort).
    Alright, but "I hope she quits" comes off a lot stronger than that.

    Also, didn't loads of people think Obama wouldn't be able to hack it because he was too young or hadn't served in the army and various qualities like that which are unrelated to presidential competency? People will be cynical about and turn their noses up at anything that threatens the status quo.
    I do recall a lot of people saying wasn't experienced enough. Can't say I remember things like his age specifically, but then again I didn't follow politics that closely. Though I would say that even though age and experience in the army aren't really important for being a good president, they are at least tangentially related to holding the highest office of the land that also doubles as commander in chief. In general these attacks seem to be made on points that are superficially related to the office even though they fall apart upon closer examination.

    But yes of course, people in general like to use unrelated things to attack a person when facts aren't on their side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headswillroll View Post
    Why is this a big deal?
    Because it's progress.

  20. #80
    It's an empty victory really, in a society that largely treats women like damsel's still. A bisexual woman is typically seen, by the intolerants, as a victim of confusion, so they are pitied by those who care negatively, they are accepted into the LGBT community with open arms, and the 'straight-but-don't-care' crowd is like "AWESOME YOU GO GIRL/ THAT'S HOT!"

    Ever met an openly bisexual man? Probably not. Because the intolerants see them as perverted deviants, the LGBT community treats them like shit, and the 'straight-but-don't-care' crowd treats them like sissies.

    So when I see the first openly bisexual MALE politician, then I'll believe society has become more enlightened.

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