Where is her nod for the hottest Congresswoman? Give credit where credit is due.
The only problem I've seen is that LGBQT groups will try to recruit people who are not sure of their sexuality to help them figure stuff out
They aren't really the group of people I would trust for helping me figure that kind of stuff out, the same as I wouldn't trust a group on the opposite end of the spectrum.
I hope you realize that I'm commenting on how other people act towards bisexuals in my experience, and not my personal attitude towards bisexuals.
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Yeah, the most common consensus seems to be if you're 99% straight then you're 100% gay.
Strawman. I never said all or most or even a lot of people are bisexual.
In other words you have no idea how science works, and don't understand the concept of statistics.
Which is not nearly the same as saying everyone is bisexual. So apparently you're still on the exact same strawman as yesterday. Aren't you just creative.
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Lol, the hell did this become about left vs right politics? Then again it's not like you offered any logically sound argument all thread.
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They aren't my standards. It's just science. You are happy when it fits your worldview but dodge it and twist it to fit your argument when it doesn't.
That's called bias. I assure you that I am quite neutral. You, however, are easily provoked.
Evidence is not proof.
Learn the difference.
I will not accept a biased unrepresentative study as proof, because it's simply not. You believe what you want. That doesn't mean it's true.
I want you to answer this very simple question: do you have a mother and a father?
Now here's a better one: do you believe that children should have both a mother and a father? Ideally. Not everyone are good parents but assuming they are, children not only have both a mother and a father, but should have both in their lives too.
Those are traditional values.
I am sorry if you don't like them.
You've not proven that. It's just political cannon fodder designed to shut down the debate.
Yes she is. She is incredibly vicious. It is quite telling when a Conservative is more civil than someone on the left.
Now I am used to debating with worse, so it doesn't bother me at all. But people like her will discourage people from joining the debate, and that my friend, is wrong.
You stick together though. Left wingers have a Borg mentality anyway so this doesn't surprise me.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you are weak.
Then you are a fool. Where do you think the computer you are reading this on came from? It came from someone's desire to make a better life for themselves. Nothing in life is free. It seems that you haven't fully escaped your country's past. I know how hard escaping a drained uninspired collectivist mentality can be, but if people truly want to escape that cycle, then it has to be broken.
Because the left wing has been taken over by big government control freaks who won't listen to us. They will happily use a tyranny of the masses to force their worldview on us. It's called a soft tyranny where instead of killing people they kill your ideas instead.
The U.S. was the land of pornography but electing a bisexual politician is considered progress.
You are missing the point again. All that matters is who can get the job done. You don't have to be X, Y, Z in order to push for equality. It's just a blatant PR move and you've bought it.
All that will happen now thanks to these divisive politics is people of different political stripes will consolidate elsewhere. That person you just elected won't represent everyone.
You have made sexuality an issue when it simply should not matter. No one cares except for you.
I want to solve problems that effect us all.
Putting ideology ahead of the country is not progress. Just remember this if she turns out to be a terrible politician.
That shows how naive you are then. Left wingers (the new left I should say) are pro-uncontrolled immigration because it builds up their voter base. They are playing this game to win just like the other side.
No I think you are blind.
I don't remember oppressing you. You can't blame whole groups for the actions of individuals.
Civil rights are another story. You are creating a false equivalency. Lincoln freed the slaves and he was a Republican.
You said that everyone falls between the extremes. Do you want me to quote you again?
You have a biased unrepresentative sample.
That's not science.
Now you're just hiding behind nuance.
If everyone isn't exclusively straight or exclusively gay (like you said in your own words) then that would make them bi to a certain extent.
You're not very good at arguing semantics.
This won't work on me Semaphore. I know that you people will do anything to win an argument, but I am happy to let others decide who is right and who is wrong. All I am doing is letting the facts do the talking.
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Calling attention to one's personal beliefs and preferences is, imo, nothing more than an attention whore move (using the term here in general, not just with this woman.)
Why does it matter that she is bi-sexual, or lesbian, or straight?
It's purely anecdotal, but my wife and I have a mutual friend who is flamboyantly gay, and while I don't care about his preferences, the way he is constantly trying to get approval for his lifestyle makes me wonder if he is really seeking equality, or if he just enjoys the attention. Any opportunity to call out how he is gay, or being treated differently because he is gay is an opportunity to bitch and complain about how the community is being oppressed and segregated. Apparently it's also quite common in the community (according to him, anyway) to classify different types of gay people, and certain types belittle other types no differently than how homophobic people belittle gays. But, it's acceptable for one gay to do it to another gay why?
I've never understood why any of it mattered, the woman in this case should succeed or fail based on her merits and effort, her gender preferences have no business being quanitified or discussed in regards to her holding elected office.
Whether or not the lady in this case is the one pushing the story is really not relevant to my issue with it, the very act of the news media, or community needing to say "first bi-sexual congresswoman elected" is no different than the cries of "first black president elected," it's calling attention to something that doesn't need to be.
No amount of intelligent discussion or information is going to change the mind of a bigot, and for the vast majority of people who simply don't care about other people's preferences (or race, religion, etc. for that matter) such loud mouth behavior is annoying and divisive.
Well, I think major milestones like "First Woman" or "First <Major Race>" are somewhat important as they show significant milestones, but shit like "First <Race> <Sexual Orientation> <Gender>!" just seems to be begging for attention for planting what I consider to be an incredibly insignificant flag.
If this was 1960, I might agree with you. I find it hard to believe that most people (Americans, anyway) really have racist beliefs or opinions. It's not something I can post a graph or a chart of, but in my personal opinion, I would say most Americans are middle of the road on most subjects, and are not fervently opinionated. I'm sure there are people who have those beliefs, but I would be shocked if they were not in an extreme minority.
Again! shocked you didn't take "who cares as long as she's capable ect".
That's my official stance here, You havin an off day Semaphore?
My only concern is a small wonder if it's being used rather then just a simple truth, if you follow.
I don't mind lesbians/bi ect, but gratuitous fake bisexuality for attention, profit, or votes, kind of makes me feel ill.
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