Do You Support Legalization of Marijuana? If so, what regulations are suggested?

[Kornath]

I would not want weed legalized, there is a reason it is illegal and I provided information as to why.

I am not saying alcohol or cigarettes are any better, I both smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol, but weed has far more severe side effects. Sure those side effects may not affect everybody, but the risk is there none the less.

I know this will not stop people from buying and smoking it, so I would like to see some changes to the law when it comes Marijuana.

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

Ah, I live in county seat of Cache Valley. It's pretty crazy how...extremist and opposite northern Utah is compared to the rest of the U.S. and the world, it can be quite interesting to witness though, when you're not being kicked out of stores for being a socialist.

Southern Utah seems to be worse, there's just less people there.

But yeah, when people complain about Obama being a communist or shit like that, it's like "Woah, dude, do you even know what you are saying?"

Also polygamist neighbors that tell you the Earth is only 4000 years old and that scientists put dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us.

[Mormolyce]

Isn't everything legal until a law is created to specifically control it?

[Decagon]

Southern Utah seems to be worse, there's just less people there.

But yeah, when people complain about Obama being a communist or shit like that, it's like "Woah, dude, do you even know what you are saying?"

Also polygamist neighbors that tell you the Earth is only 4000 years old and that scientists put dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us.

I should video tape my economics class and all the comments and conversations that pop up in that class and send it in to some comedy site, just because of how rampant, hardily defended and misinformed some of the comments are (such as "Obama's a dirty communist and evolution not only didn't happen to humans, but also doesn't exist). That class reminds me that I need to be very careful about what I say concerning politics to avoid being hunted down as a witch (or I guess a wizard).

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Isn't everything legal until a law is created to specifically control it?

Pretty much, but it seems that there are indeed laws currently and explicitly "outlawing" marijuana except in some cases (such as medical).

[Pipebomb]

I would not want weed legalized, there is a reason it is illegal and I provided information as to why.

I am not saying alcohol or cigarettes are any better, I both smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol, but weed has far more severe side effects. Sure those side effects may not affect everybody, but the risk is there none the less.

I know this will not stop people from buying and smoking it, so I would like to see some changes to the law when it comes Marijuana.

Uh, ciggs and alcohol are way worse. It sounds like you've never smoked weed before. Anyways, it comes down to personal freedom. Why can't I smoke in the privvacy of my own home if i'm not hurting myself or anyone else?

Can you explain why hemp is illegal? Because paper products are bad for my health? Is it not obvious marijuana is illegal for other reasons than health? Big business makes money off of it's illegality and the fascist U.S. gov't is in bed with these businesses.

The fact that cannabis is a schedule I drug is ridiculous.

[Kornath]

Uh, ciggs and alcohol are way worse. It sounds like you've never smoked weed before. Anyways, it comes down to personal freedom. Why can't I smoke in the privvacy of my own home if i'm not hurting myself or anyone else?

Can you explain why hemp is illegal? Because paper products are bad for my health? Is it not obvious marijuana is illegal for other reasons than health? Big business makes money off of it's illegality and the fascist U.S. gov't is in bed with these businesses.

The fact that cannabis is a schedule I drug is ridiculous.

You are hurting yourself by smoking marijuana and/or cigarettes, but cigarettes have fewer negative side effects than marijuana.

Why is hemp illegal? A quick look around the internet told me it was because of its relation with marijuana, because your "fascist" government does not consistently distinguish between marijuana and the non-psychoactive Cannabis used for industrial and commercial purposes.

A 2010 study compared the production of paper specifically from hemp and eucalyptus concluded that "industrial hemp presents higher environmental impacts than eucalyptus paper".
Perhaps another good reason, it is hard to tell these days.

[EqualWin]

You are hurting yourself by smoking marijuana and/or cigarettes, but cigarettes have fewer negative side effects than marijuana.

Why is hemp illegal? A quick look around the internet told me it was because of its relation with marijuana, because your "fascist" government does not consistently distinguish between marijuana and the non-psychoactive Cannabis used for industrial and commercial purposes.

A 2010 study compared the production of paper specifically from hemp and eucalyptus concluded that "industrial hemp presents higher environmental impacts than eucalyptus paper".
Perhaps another good reason, it is hard to tell these days.

wow lol

cuz plz pot doesn't have more bad effects than marihuana

[Decagon]

wow lol

cuz plz pot doesn't have more bad effects than marihuana

I thought pot and marijuana were the same thing? Am I really that uneducated on this subject?

[obdigore]

I thought pot and marijuana were the same thing? Am I really that uneducated on this subject?

Well his avatar is a stoned trollface guy, and he seems to have problems getting his point across, so I would imagine you can discount what he is saying.

'Pot' is just another word for Marijuana.

[Phokas]

It should be legalized and regulated just like alcohol. Already a massive percentage of Americans smoke it and distribute it illegally, most of which are hard working people at their job/college who would like to blow off some steam after 12-14 hour day. It's clogging up our judicial and prison system instead of getting to real crime, like theft and violence. It would help solve fiscal/debt problems with the government. The drug war has cost BILLIONS and countless studies show that use of all forms of drops have NOT dropped even slightly. It's time we look at some different solutions.

Simply put; there is no such thing as a victimless crime. All that is some elites regulating your liberty because of a special interest persuades it to do so. (Hemp vs. Paper). There is legitimately no reason it should be illegal unless you are some moral nazi, but no one really cares about your type anyway.

[Decagon]

Well his avatar is a stoned trollface guy, and he seems to have problems getting his point across, so I would imagine you can discount what he is saying.

'Pot' is just another word for Marijuana.

Okay, just making sure. I was worried that I was even more misinformed than I thought I was.

Also, what IS he saying?

[obdigore]

Okay, just making sure. I was worried that I was even more misinformed than I thought I was.

Also, what IS he saying?

I think he attempted to say

'Cousin (and shortened it to 'cuz'), please, pot doesn't have any worse effects than tobacco.'

But as I said, what he said needs interpreting and I'm just guessing here.

[Decagon]

Haha, I think we can just ignore it then.

[Pipebomb]

You are hurting yourself by smoking marijuana and/or cigarettes, but cigarettes have fewer negative side effects than marijuana.

Do you believe in freedom of choice? How many side effects are allowed before something becomes illegal? How can you use cigarettes as an example, they are horrible. But whether it's marijuana or tobacco it's your own personal choice and that should be fine.

Edit: Ron Paul argues the point much better than I can w/o losing my mind.

[rezoacken]

I support it but I think hospitalisation due to drugs should not be covered by a national insurance. If you smoke, drive and broke a leg too bad your fault, I wont pay for it.

[obdigore]

I support it but I think hospitalisation due to drugs should not be covered by a national insurance. If you smoke, drive and broke a leg too bad your fault, I wont pay for it.

Being under the influence of drugs (including alcohol) will operating motor vehicles is and should continue to be illegal.

[Kornath]

Do you believe in freedom of choice?

How can you use cigarettes as an example, they are horrible.

Edit: Ron Paul argues the point much better than I can w/o losing my mind.

First Bolded part: Yes I do, although I am sure some will consider me a hypocrite now. I do smoke (cigarettes) myself and have tried smoking marijuana which is something I am not too proud of. Just because someone smokes marijuana does not mean I consider them a bad person though, I do know people who smoke marijuana.

Second: It is a fine example in my opinion. It is also an addictive drug with side effects similar to marijuana, albeit not the more serious one. Alcohol too is an acceptable example to use, I am not arguing that both do not cause problems because they do. I have seen the side effects first hand which is why I am against it.

Third: I do not believe this is an insult towards me or the others who do not believe it should be legalized, but if it is then you should not join the discussion at all. No offense intended.

I am not against debating it and I am capable of changing my opinion. If I am to change my opinion on the matter though, I will need to see some proof that it will not become a social problem. Especially because I live in Denmark (a welfare state), where I think along the lines of Rezoacken.

[Deleted]

If you're for (A) drug prohibition, you're also for the (B) drug wars and for funding the cartels/mafia with heaps of cash. Even though you want A but not B, the fact that A must necessarily result in B means you cannot separate the two.

[Glaziola]

To anyone 18+ why should it be prohibited to destroy your own body if you want to?
Same like cigaretes and alcohol make it legal.

[Kornath]

If you're for (A) drug prohibition, you're also for the (B) drug wars and for funding the cartels/mafia with heaps of cash. Even though you want A but not B, the fact that A must necessarily result in B means you cannot separate the two.

A very good point I will admit that.

I very much doubt anyone is interested in seeing the criminal organizations reaping in more cash though. Although it is a good point, I can always rebuke with "Marijuana is an illegal drug that provides the international crime organizations with money, thus by buying it you are not only committing a crime you are helping organized crime!"

And who is to say the criminal organizations will not attempt to heavily interfere? Who will we buy the marijuana from if it gets legalized (I personally believe that it should be state controlled farms, but that is up for debate)?

Now I am all for easier punishment on those who just smoke it, should it not get legalized, as throwing them in prison is a horrible idea that I find ludicrous, economically expensive and to be a waste of the justice systems time.