Originally Posted by
Jackinthegreen
Playing a bit of Devil's Advocate, enrage timers weren't explicitly mentioned in the OP. It is, however, reasonable to infer that they're a bit of problem at times.
It is possible the tank can survive decently once he has his shit together for the encounter, but getting him to that point is what's holding them back. I know I've had some issues on encounter mechanics but usually have my normal rotation down pat. Or he could just suck all around and not know how to tank as a pally (which is quite sad given the great guides here and on EJ). As a healer, I know you've seen a few too many sides of stupid. Regardless, I'm not so sure the whole "tank is a moron" thing is a central or totally intentional part of the argument though it certainly can contribute to others thinking that the one in conflict with the moron is the one in the right