Actually... rock and roll has history in black music so that won't work so well.
We can't even say trance, techno, club, dance, are white genres because they have roots that start in house music, which is very urban and yet again has roots in black music.
It's no different from "Euro dance"
Blacks had x music that was in the black community that spread and influenced other communities. Why is this so difficult?
Because it is a way to point to the origins of the music style. Do you think the word black is a racist word?
African-American music is an umbrella term covering a diverse range of musics and musical genres largely developed by black Americans. Jazz, blues, gospel, and soul constitute the principal modern genres of African-American music. Their origins are in musical forms that arose out of the historical condition of involuntary servitude that characterized the lives of black Americans prior to the American Civil War. The modern genres were developed during the late nineteenth century by fusing European musical styles (characterized by diatonic harmony within the framework of equal temperament) with those of African origin which employed the natural harmonic series.
Following the Civil War, black Americans, through employment as musicians playing European music in military bands developed new musical styles such as ragtime and what would become known as jazz. In developing this latter musical form, African Americans contributed knowledge of the sophisticated polyrhythmic structure of the dance and folk music of peoples across western and sub-Saharan Africa. Together, these musical forms had a wide-ranging and profound influence over the development of music within the United States and around the world during the twentieth century.
The earliest jazz and blues recordings were made in the 1920s. Later periods saw considerable innovation and change. African-American genres have been highly influential across socio-economic and racial groupings internationally, and have enjoyed popularity on a global level. African-American music and all aspects of African-American culture are celebrated during Black History Month in February of each year in the United States.
As well as bringing harmonic and rhythmic features from Western and Sub-Saharan Africa into European musical styles, it was the historical condition of chattel slavery experienced by black Americans within American society that contributed the conditions which would define their music. Many of the characteristic musical forms that define African-American music have historical precedents. These earlier forms include:
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The nerve is called the "nerve of awareness". You cant dissect it. Its a current that runs up the center of your spine. I dont know if any of you have sat down, crossed your legs, smoked DMT, and watch what happens... but what happens to me is this big thing goes RRRRRRRRRAAAAAWWW! up my spine and flashes in my brain... well apparently thats whats going to happen if I do this stuff...
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The nerve is called the "nerve of awareness". You cant dissect it. Its a current that runs up the center of your spine. I dont know if any of you have sat down, crossed your legs, smoked DMT, and watch what happens... but what happens to me is this big thing goes RRRRRRRRRAAAAAWWW! up my spine and flashes in my brain... well apparently thats whats going to happen if I do this stuff...
In most cases, people use the phrase as an homage to the cultural origins that began that genre. Various types of modern music was born out black communities in the americas, from jazz to rock and roll (which have since transcended their racial origins) to some things that are inherently and exclusively "black music" like Gullah shout rings.
You might argue the racial reference is unnecessary but an extraneous label does not automatically mean racist.
no I said, music made by black people is black music :P looks like a similar statement, but it's not. Black People make Black Music, but not all Black Music is made by Black people. I guess a "usually" would be appropriate in there. Also not sure why it's being taken as a negative...
I mean its not inherently racist by it self but separating or signifying based on race isn't usually a good thing. I mean why not put yellow stars on Jews so people know they are Jews, same kinda concept.
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so if a black person plays polka is it now black music?
That is why you put it into a context, but this is too hard for you to get it seems. Seriously, you are being silly.
Why do you find the historical origin of music racist?
You are argueing that for example an artist is racist if he says that he got inspired by african-american or black culture, do you realize that? It's the exact same thing.
The nerve is called the "nerve of awareness". You cant dissect it. Its a current that runs up the center of your spine. I dont know if any of you have sat down, crossed your legs, smoked DMT, and watch what happens... but what happens to me is this big thing goes RRRRRRRRRAAAAAWWW! up my spine and flashes in my brain... well apparently thats whats going to happen if I do this stuff...
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
"Isn't usually a good thing' != "racist." Sorry, but I don't think recognising the positive historical influence of a particular group of people (whether national, cultural or racial) on something is at all the same thing as discrimination, segregation and oppression based on ethnicity, culture or religion.