5.2 PTR is live.

[Peso]

Not going to lie. That world boss looks very well done.

[Deleted]

this patch is already my favorite, because dinosaurs you know...

[Azutael]

this patch is already my favorite, because dinosaurs you know...

As a warlock i'm torn, Dinosaurs or the warlock questline.

Dammit, I demand warlocks gets a dinosaur on fire, not just any fire. Green fire of course!

[wooootles]

Thanks for the updates!

Do we have any clue on what the raid ilvl gear drops are? I'm assuming 496/509/522 for the 3 difficulties?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

As a warlock i'm torn, Dinosaurs or the warlock questline.

Dammit, I demand warlocks gets a dinosaur on fire, not just any fire. Green fire of course!

Even better... a demonic Dinosaur with Green Fire!

[Dieselol]

my account says it hase been banned and I should contact customer support and it says I dont have MOP. My live account works just fine anyone else having this issue?

[Deleted]

Thanks for the updates!

Do we have any clue on what the raid's ilvl gear? I'm assuming 496/509/522 for the 3 difficulties?

usually the normal gear is 6/7 ilvls higher than the HC version of the previous tier, so 516-517 (like HC Elite), and HC version will be around 14 ilvls higher, so 530-ish.

[Buu]

Okay, that's superdumb. >.<
The fact that people were restarting pet battles till they got the right combination should've told the devs something. Namely, that not knowing which pet you're going to fight first is a massive pain. Pet battles are all about playing rock-paper-scissors, they're not skill-based scenarios where a randomised pet order adds a compelling element of challenge. Random pet orders in the hardest battles are just going to mean you lose because RNG arbitrarily decided your strategy isn't going to work this time.

Blargh. I hope they revert it. The solution to this problem was to cut out the thing that annoyed players in the first place, not to punish players for trying to get around it.

Would be great if a bigwig could go to them and say that this part of the job is horrible. There are lots of good stuff in pet battles, but the backstabbing strategies of NPC failed. And it's not forcing us to play a failed model they will fix it. It will only make it more prominent as a bad design.

So yeah, they have to reverse that FOR STARTERS. Then change the backstabbing model. People should have to choose if they want NPCs to be beaten with a bold or a cheesy strategy. We already have enough challenge by trying the PvP battles.

[beanman12345]

Ok I have a small problem with this. Knowing that I begin to agree that it will take WAY too long to advance to the next tier, should Blizzard not do anything to change the rate of gear acquisition in LFR. I'm in almost BiS LFR/Valor gear and I am barely 487. Just the valor gear alone that I have would take 6-8 weeks to get because of the Valor cap.

If Blizzard is going to stick to the "progression" style of raiding, where new players are expected to use LFR to catch up to the current Tier, then they need to make it faster to reach the level required to enter the next Tier's LFR. 2-4 weeks for a new player to catch up is ok. Being stuck in a prior Tier for 6-10 weeks is too long.

I'm not even close to BiS LFR/Valor gear, an i'm 486. none of my gear is upgraded and I still have a 463 weapon...

[wooootles]

usually the normal gear is 6/7 ilvls higher than the HC version of the previous tier, so 516-517 (like HC Elite), and HC version will be around 14 ilvls higher, so 530-ish.

True, but I don't know what the 'standard' normal ilvl is for T14, if it's MSV/most Valor rewards (489) or HoF/ToTS/Shieldwall (496). I'm hoping it will be like how you said it would be. The ilvls in MoP are far more all over the place than Cata or LK, for sure

[Deleted]

Where can I download the EU PTR client?

[Deleted]

thank you for this information good sir

[hiragana]

486 ilevel must be a mistake, isnt the highest ilevel that drops in LFR 483? Surely they dont want even more people to be complaining about being forced to do dailies.

[Gurbz]

I'm not even close to BiS LFR/Valor gear, an i'm 486. none of my gear is upgraded and I still have a 463 weapon...

If none of your gear is upgraded, you still use a 463 weapon, and you are at a 486 average iLvl, then you are in head to toe Valor or Normal raid gear. Or damn near. Because in order to do that, you average iLvl in every slot but your weapon would have to be 489. It still likely took you a damn long time to get that level of gear, at least when we are talking about a new player needing to invest the same amount of time you did to reach the next tier. Only going up one tier like that isn't the end of the world. Going up more than 1 tier would be a nightmare.

480 would be OK. 486 requires more gear than what you could earn in LFR or a lot of luck and a lot of valor. Like I said, I am not opposed to it taking some time to reach a gear level that is ready for current Tier. But it should be faster than it took us to gear up in the first place. I don't think 2-4 weeks is unreasonable.

[artame]

maybe the loot from the new scenarios will be around 486-496 so that you can reach 486 without doing dailies

[Immitis]

in b4 "ER MAH GERD DERRIES" O-O

[TheWindWalker]

Hope this patch fixes the LFR lootsystem.

What is there to fix?

Fix what? Your bad luck?

While I don't think there's anything to "fix" in current tier. If the drop rates on the first three LFRs aren't increased from ~15% to ~30% or higher, then this expansion will have a slower raid gearing progression model than Burning Crusade. The number fed into the algorithm is suppose to simulate the old drop rates. Problem is, when you needed to gear an alt or a new player, you didn't go back into Karazhan with 24 other people who needed gear from that same raid.

Also, yay more dailies. It wasn't even Christmas before I ran out of content to do and had to go get other hobbies.

[hiragana]

The backlash would be immense if you had to do dailies to get into lfr lol

[wooootles]

486 ilevel must be a mistake, isnt the highest ilevel that drops in LFR 483? Surely they dont want even more people to be complaining about being forced to do dailies.

Well they do have valor upgrades for those players not having a single rep above friendly (I seriously doubt that they exist in large numbers)

[Shampro]

486 ilevel must be a mistake, isnt the highest ilevel that drops in LFR 483? Surely they dont want even more people to be complaining about being forced to do dailies.

Jesus when will that tired argument reach its end? Please PLEASE PLEASE dont ruin the thread with the same discussion that has 10000 threads on it, please.