Given the current direction of the story, we'll probably see them both dead at some point.
Given the current direction of the story, we'll probably see them both dead at some point.
Would be kinda cool if we got to defeat both of them and they started their own faction.
Those are some pretty biased poll options lol.
Not voting for either I guess
Nah./10characters
Now you see it. Now you don't.
But was where Dalaran?
Then who would be able to claim Lordaeron? The Alliance? What claim would they ahve over Lordaeron? Cause it once belonged to the humans?
What happens to Stromgarde Keep is uncertain. Just because Galen Trollbane is a Forsaken doesn't mean the Forsaken will actually take over/back Stromgarde from the Syndicate. Maybe Galen will go neutral with a group of Forsaken. We don't know.
They were already dead, so either they join the Forsaken freely or they just return to the graves if they please. How is it hard to see the options there? Be ressurrected and join the Forsaken, or just stay dead.So, those ressurected don't have a choice after all?
So they get the choice between to serve the Forsaken or roll over and die?
If it's thats the choice then i fail to the see options.
Like i said, everything is 'permitted', but if it's normal to use? No. What Garrosh wants to do is inhuman, just like the plague. I doubt Garrosh only wants to remove / strenghten 'emotions'.Garrosh wants to cure the Horde of the imperfection called "Emotions" only those emotions that strengthen should remain, also Garrosh doesn't give a shit how his enemies die, as long as they die.
Vol'jin and Baine were not fine with Garrosh war from the start, but they started to really despise it after Garrosh has shown that he would stoop down to any level to win this.
Sylvanas jumped off the Frozen Throne cause Arthas was dead, yes. She didn't see any reason anymore to be alive. The Val'kyr showed her what would happen to the Forsaken if she would have actually jumped and they wouldn't have helped her. THAT was her reason to accept the offer the Val'kyr gave her.Again, in the short story it is pretty clear that Sylvanas cares for the Forsaken because she knows that will be killed when the Forsaken are dead, she needs to keep the Forsaken alive to keep herself alive, she doesn't act because of love for her people.
Or why do you think Sylvanas jumped off the Frozen throne? Lich king is dead, the only purpose in her unlife now fulfilled.
She came back because she realized that being actually dead will be worse than anything that could happen to her.
She doesn't need the Forsaken, she went back because she actually cares after the visions. She needs the Val'kyr and vice versa. That is the pact.
So if your boss told you to go jump off a cliff you would do it? Get real. They have choice, and obviously Sylvanas has no morals / conscience. She was "forsaken" by her home kingdom becasue she was turned undead. It doesnt mean she automatically now does not have a conscience / morals. What if the home kindgom reaccepted her back in the fold? Would she have turned out all nice and fluffy?
Seriously.
Well if I had the choice of jumping off a cliff or getting stabbed by a hundred red hot knives I'd try my chances with the cliff, which was basically the situation here. Sylvanas didn't have any options. The Forsaken (who got their name because they were forsaken by the light and by the people who once loved them... To the elves, actually, Sylvanas died a hero... they didn't know that she was undead until relatively recently, so please don't come to me with that "her kingdom shunned her" stuff) were in the Horde because they needed allies, otherwise the rest of the world would have destroyed them. She couldn't say no without jeopardizing her people's safety. While she's not at all sunshine and buttercups (I never said such), she does care about her people enough to make sure they survive... even if she is only doing so because their survival means her survival as well.
This is pretty simple stuff and is the basis of Forsaken lore. Sylvanas needs the Horde. If she says "no" to the Warchief, that's tantamount to saying "We no longer wish to be in the Horde." which is rather obviously against her agenda.
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Did you actually read what I wrote ? The UNDEAD ARE UNNATURAL. In no occurance WHATSOEVER in our world is there any example Nature has ever produced Undead animals\people\things. In the make believe world of Azeroth, the Undead are still UNNATURAL. They do not exist NATRUALLY. They are created, against their wills! via magics. It is really a stretch to even call them a race, since they are made up of multiple races. To call me a racist for calling them unnatural creatures, is pretty interesting. I can only assume you're on a RP server and play an undead and are still in character
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Cut off her head and use it as the new Football for Winters Veil 2013
I think we all know that the warcraft story is gonna end with the alliance winning the war and every horde race being extinct.
Although she has done some terrible things...she still hasn't reached that "point of no return" that Garrosh is reaching. He's not only a threat to the Alliance, but to the Horde...and even to his own race.