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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by petej0 View Post
    You missed my point. Doesnt matter, live and let live as long as you live by my rules right?

    Nope, you didn't make a valid point. People don't adopy oversees because of a shortage of kids. There are plenty of kids in the US for adoption...

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    Nope, you didn't make a valid point. People don't adop oversees because of a shortage of kids to adopt. There are plenty of kids in the US for adoption...
    That wasnt my point.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by petej0 View Post
    You cant know that. Even if one family takes in one of her babies instead of adopting overseas it has saved tax payers money. Besides, how much is a child growing up in a loving caring family that is able to provide for the childs every need worth? What is the chance that any one of these 8 grow up to be on the wrong side of the law growing up with mom struggling to feed and cloth them as compared with loving couples who adopted them and can provide for them?

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    That isnt her doctors business. Go to any fertility specialist and not a single one will question you about it.
    Actually it ''IS'' the doctors business lol. The fact that he put MORE EMBRYOS and lied about it, is clearly the doctors business. The fact he didn't care about her mental state ''IS'' the doctors business.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    The doctor should be sued, there should be a lawsuit, he could be sued I believe, and the doctor IS to blame for her having this many kids. He lied and implanted more than he should have.

    You think taking a child away from their home and sticking them in foster care when they're older which will likely mean they won't get adopted and instead spend time between homes until they're 18, is better? It would be fucking traumatic.
    Having 1 more kid is still ridiculous when you are single with 6 others. Doctor or not, her having 1 more or 8 more kids is irresponsible any way you look at it. While I don't think her kids should have to starve, but she is to blame for putting herself into a shitty situation.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by petej0 View Post
    That wasnt my point.

    Then what was your point? No additional savings are had...

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    Do not have kids that you can't afford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sick of adults using their kids as leverage. Close your freaking legs! Take a pill! Grab a coat hanger! Something!
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  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Roose View Post
    Close you freaking legs!

    No sex was required for these children. Wrong thread?


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    Imo, anyone with 3 kids should have her tubes tide and he should get a vasectomie. Stop breeding like rabbits.

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    On the one hand, kids are a joy to have - I can't begrudge having kids.


    On the other hand I, as a parent, would feel like I was just not fulfilling my parental and social responsibilities if I couldn't pay for my childrens upbringing out of my own pocket.
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    Gold and the 'need' for it in-game is easily one of the most overblown mindsets in this community.

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    She's a dumb hoe imho. "Six kids and single? Lets have more!" "Can't afford these kids? Lets do porn!" "Porn not cutting it? Time to make the government pay for my mistakes!"

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Actually it ''IS'' the doctors business lol. The fact that he put MORE EMBRYOS and lied about it, is clearly the doctors business. The fact he didn't care about her mental state ''IS'' the doctors business.
    It is not the doctors business to decide how many babies a couple is to have. If a couple comes to a fertility specialist they dont care how many children the couple alreay has UNLESS it pertains to the couples inability to conceive naturally. The doctor has nothing to do with mental evaluations of his clients unless there is a clear phycosis. The fact that the doctor lied or put more embryos is not even a topic of discussion.

    Even if she did have a questionable mental state, wouldnt that be enough of an excuse to remove some of the 14 children from her care? If she isnt capable of knowing she cant afford 6 kids and wanting more shouldnt that be a testament to her decision making process and potentially her kids life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    No sex was required for these children. Wrong thread?

    What about the other 6?

    Did someone force her to have any of these kids?
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  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by petej0 View Post
    The fact that the doctor lied or put more embryos is not even a topic of discussion.

    Even if she did have a questionable mental state, wouldnt that be enough of an excuse to remove some of the 14 children from her care? If she isnt capable of knowing she cant afford 6 kids and wanting more shouldnt that be a testament to her decision making process and potentially her kids life?


    Why the heck not? Let's say you have 0 kids, and the doctor makes you have 8 instead of 1? Who is to blame, you or the doctor?

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    What about the other 6?

    Did someone force her to have any of these kids?

    So how many kids is too many, let's just become like China? Two and your done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    So how many kids is too many, let's just become like China? Two and your done?
    Yes, considering we already have overpopulation in most of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    So how many kids is too many, let's just become like China? Two and your done?
    A single child over what you can afford to support is too many. You can afford to pay for 80 kids, great. You can afford none, sorry, maybe you should wait until you can....

    I think getting tubes tied should be a requirement of going on welfare. Can always get it reversed when you are able to prove that you can take care of your children.
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  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    So how many kids is too many, let's just become like China? Two and your done?
    The moment you start having kids you cannot afford.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Roose View Post
    A single child over what you can afford to support is too many.

    What happens if you lose your job because of the economy? Government takes away your kids?


  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    What happens if you lose your job because of the economy? Government takes away your kids?

    You're moving goalposts. We aren't talking about a woman who 'lost her job', she had more kids when she couldn't afford any more to begin with.

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    So let's get this straight.

    Her bills are in excess of 100k a year

    You don't think she should get welfare,

    which means you don't think her children need to eat, or need to go to the doctors, or need to go to the dentist.

    A regular job isn't going to cut it to pay for her bills lol. Not at this point.
    NO SHE SHOULD NOT GET WELFARE. You should not be rewarded for doing nothing and having more and more kids. Why should we keep working and paying our taxes while she sits there and does nothing and handed money? I'm sorry but if you can't afford to take care of the 6 kids you already had *which she couldn't* why would you take all the money you had to pay a doctor *which is expensive* TO HAVE MORE KIDS!? So your telling me she made a bad descision like she admitted to and since she brought all these kids into the world we should be footing the bill for them? My Wife has 3 kids in which she was the only parent working for the whole 13 years her oldest has been a live. Her husband at the time refused to work and they did not get welfare when she was the only one providing.. To many people i know refuse to work and have children and say, "why should I work when I get money from the state?". We are promoting people to have kids and not have to do another because the state will provide healthcare, dental care, money for food/rent/electricity.

    So again You're telling me WE should foot the bill because she was dumb enough to have that many kids? Having 6 kids alone is way to much money per year that she couldn't afford, so the only logical thing is to try and add 2 more on! Yep that makes so much sense I'm sorry the government needs to step in and give the kids to relatives or foster homes and put her ass in jail until she pays back all the money she got from us. She OBVIOUSLY doesn't give a crap about being able to provide for the kids otherwise she would have never had 6 kids let alone 14!!!! That is just plain FACTS and simple LOGIC that everyone should have. Can't provide for the 6 you have DON'T HAVE ANYMORE!!! Don't agree I don't care because I sure as hell know as a taxpayer I should have a say so in this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    What happens if you lose your job because of the economy?
    Stop making shit up. Any person with a brain takes that into consideration when PLANNING to have a child. If your future job outlook is sketchy at best, do not have a child.
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