I hate it is being nerfed, but CnD is retarded strong for sub. Being able to CC the whole team and then putting out max pressure makes the talent a must have for any serious Arena play.
Stop posting that Rogue X could CS you're team then come back and kill someone all in a subterfuge or whatever...those CS cost energy, so CS a few people pop back to original target and.....wait....for....energy.....CnD was fine maybe lessen it to 22-25yds due to latency, Subterfuge is slightly OP tho. Should fix it by unstealthing the rogue but allowing stealthed abilities.
I agree with your subterfuge change.
But CnD is an utterly stupid talent simply because it's unbalancable in it's 5.2 form. Imagine if every time a warrior cast avatar, he would get auto-charged to your location no matter where you went. Would that be fair? NO. And this wasn't either. And shadow dance is in fact a more powerful burst cd than avatar.
Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-6700 @2.8GHz | Nvidia GTX 960M | 16GB DDR4-2400MHz | 1 TB Toshiba SSD| Dell XPS 15
stop comparing us to a class that has a baseline gap closer cause we dont have one. ( inb4 he says sprint is one, its not )
edit: actually he gave me great idea, make shadowstep baseline and make the current mobility tier about shadowstep. reduced cooldown, 2 charges and a improved one that breaks roots.
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are you being serious right now? you know how many classes have the same or similar problems? poor you.
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sprint doesn't close gaps faster than regular run? that's weird..is your toon facing the right way when you use it? ^^
i actually like your idea of ss having 2 charges.. but break roots.. lol no.
The difference is, if a warrior auto-charged on his avatar attacks you wouldn't stand a chance because you're already pressured from the warrior outside of his CDs, where as the rogue exerts no pressure at all. CnD isn't the problem, it's eviscerate crits scoring the kills. With 33% reduction on dance ARP and general pvp power nerfs, rogue burst is already nerfed heavily but if these changes go live they'll have much less pressure during dance.
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RIP, Cloak and Dagger. You were a fun talent, and I'll miss you deeply<3 Alongside this and the nerf to Find Weakness - without compansattion - I might go back to full-time Assa again.
Huh what the hell. Honestly a learn to play issue... nobody in their right mind thinks Ret is in a good spot right now. Whatever you're on, please share... Ret is barely taken to SOME 3's teams and is never taken to RBG's unless you know the leader or are Vanguards.
Also: A rogue with elusiveness takes less damage than a Ret Paladin does, and has more defensive CD's. Bubble doesn't do crap anymore unless you have a healer, as flash heals yourself for like 30-35k. And... you can't bubble and LoH in the same fight unless your opponent sucks and takes a minute to kill you.
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