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    Quote Originally Posted by Themerlin View Post
    Russia has a considerable army...not as overindulgent as the US (btw this will be US's downfall, when the rest of the world sees us not as peace keepers, but bulllies). And btw, the actual nature of war is changing, our tools are getting better, and no need to have a phalisized 1bil countach of a boat, to cary soldiers to new and beautifull places. World is getting smaller and cramped.

    which part of the world sees US as peace keepers ????????

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    Oooh it seems there's an entire wiki article on Russia's military reform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alc7 View Post
    which part of the world sees US as peace keepers ????????
    One would hope it's the part that enjoys conflict-free trade around the world.

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    I'm not sure you've been keeping up with Russia's military policies.

    Ever since Georgia they've been rebuilding their military from the ground up.

    Here's some more reading material:

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/russia-up...ning-military/

    And their Military-Industrial Complex, which once survived on exports, is finding itself increasingly driven by domestic demand.

    Putin isn't fucking around. He's determined to kick the US out of what he deems Russia's sphere of influence.
    Indeed, the Russian Military is currently behind most of NATO, but in the next decade or 2 I fully expect them to have caught up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    Oooh it seems there's an entire wiki article on Russia's military reform.

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    One would hope it's the part that enjoys conflict-free trade around the world.
    Heh hah pfff is all I can say to that

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    My view is that the next major conflict although it may be couched in a nationalistic cloak could well be between major corporations. I see a future where governments fall particularly in the US and states become corporate entities. I'm sure this sort of goes on in a cloak and dagger way at the moment but I think private armies or sponsored armies could be the future.

    Incoming Mc Ds... gas, gas, gas!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Indeed, the Russian Military is currently behind most of NATO, but in the next decade or 2 I fully expect them to have caught up.
    Still not worried about it though. Even at the height of their power during the Cold War, the USSR did not dare attack the US (or the US attack the USSR) because they knew such a war would destroy them. Even with the fall of the Soviet Union, that has not changed. MAD still exists.
    Putin khuliyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Still not worried about it though. Even at the height of their power during the Cold War, the USSR did not dare attack the US (or the US attack the USSR) because they knew such a war would destroy them. Even with the fall of the Soviet Union, that has not changed. MAD still exists.
    Nope, but non NATO countries need to be worried, I am looking at you Sweden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Indeed, the Russian Military is currently behind most of NATO, but in the next decade or 2 I fully expect them to have caught up.
    If you look at the Naval section, they're even intent on bolstering their power projection.

    Am I the only one who's excited for Putin's plans to come to fruition? It's been a while since the world has seen real competition between 2 super powers. I'm not talking about war. I'm talking about a nation who has both the will to say "no" to the United States and the power to back it up should we insist. There is no current entity with that capability... and such opposition is an important one to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everything Nice View Post
    Next World War will be Sweden vs Denmark. It's time to settle this once and for all.
    While we're at it, why not throw in Norway in the mix.

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    If you look at the Naval section, they're even intent on bolstering their power projection.

    Am I the only one who's excited for Putin's plans to come to fruition? It's been a while since the world has seen real competition between 2 super powers. I'm not talking about war. I'm talking about a nation who has both the will to say "no" to the United States and the power to back it up should we insist. There is no current entity with that capability... and such opposition is an important one to have.
    As long as this happens after i retire, I have no desire to become another Cold War warrior, those guys are the most boring and bitter veterans you could ever meet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Still not worried about it though. Even at the height of their power during the Cold War, the USSR did not dare attack the US (or the US attack the USSR) because they knew such a war would destroy them. Even with the fall of the Soviet Union, that has not changed. MAD still exists.
    That's the point. It's not something to be WORRIED about but something to be WELCOMED.

    The greatest advances in human history were made during a time when the world's 2 superpowers were fighting with each other to see who was the biggest, best, smartest and strongest. Now the US competes with no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    As long as this happens after i retire, I have no desire to become another Cold War warrior, those guys are the most boring and bitter veterans you could ever meet.
    Given the fact that the internet exists (And thus, the Iron Curtain cannot) I doubt we'll have a cold war. Unless Putin tries to extend Russia's influence into areas that are quite obviously out of its sphere of influence (Such as Japan).

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    I don't think it will be nations but sunni vs shia throughout the middle east dividing countries. Maybe not a world war but if that happens and oil becomes scarce because of it then who knows what else could happen.

    So much hatred is being built up between them with all the bombing and revenge. They really seem to hate each other much more then they hate us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alc7 View Post
    which part of the world sees US as peace keepers ????????
    Maybe not as peace keepers, you are right. After what NATO did with bosnia, elegally bombing former Yugoslavia, and propagating the illegal war that was Iraq, peace keepers left with the dodo. I believe the world now, (3rd world countries) sees the US as a police force that may have a strong influence on economical and political standings. Thats why the Kurds in iraq saw the US as delivering them from Sadam's regime. I am Canadian so will always see our military as a peace keeping force, even though that view has also gone away with some flightless bird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phenox View Post
    tittle says it all, tell us the situation!

    Yes, it will happen again. I think the Middle-East will be an actor in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    I dont think its really fair to claim that.
    It is completely fair, think what a Nobel Prize stands for, and what Nobel discovered.

    This is an utter thruth behind the nature of wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    I dont think its really fair to claim that.
    And why is that? Tell me. Why did we go to Space and then to the Moon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    I dont think its really fair to claim that.
    It is true though, our greatest inventions were discovered as results of war, cold or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    It is true though, our greatest inventions were discovered as results of war, cold or not.
    And when you look at history, a cold war produces far fewer casualties (by definition) than a world war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    Yes, it will happen again. I think the Middle-East will be an actor in it.
    My parents told me that when they were kids, that people always thought the 3rd war would be from that region.

    US v NK, that's just the US giving out a butt fucking lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    I'm not sure you've been keeping up with Russia's military policies.
    Yes, Russia's military was outdated a while ago, but they are heavily modernizing for some time now. They aren't as much a laughing stock as they were before. People say the same thing about the Chinese. China is doing the same thing, give it 10 years (or maybe 20) and China will have a more powerful army than the US.

    Yet people continue to think they're laughing stocks who would never have a chance.

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