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  1. #41
    Horridon heroic broke it. Or was it Tortos. Anyway, the guild didnt break up at all, only the raid group (2/13h) but the top healer stopped raiding due to work hours + raiding hours being too much for him, he was also the raid leader, so after that our 2 top dps (boomkin and rogue) deflected to other guilds with better progression (5/13h I believe), then another 2 or 3 people were gone as well. It was a very well-knit group of friends (or so I tought), we've been raiding together since late Ulduar.

    Now I sit bored in two moons every night waiting for lfr queues in alts. Yay.
    Last edited by Kavoo; 2013-05-17 at 03:19 PM.

  2. #42
    Sure, was in a TBC guild that was half social players and half people who really wanted to make progress in the raid content. The GM was one of the sucky players. Ambitious guys got a Kara run together one night, used the guild Vent server. GM logs on, sees people in Kara, and has a fit. Shuts down the vent server. A few weeks later, the good players /gquit, leave the socials behind, and start a new guild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavoo View Post
    Horridon heroic broke it. Or was it Tortos. Anyway, the guild didnt break up at all, only the raid group (2/13h) but the top healer stopped raiding due to work hours + raiding hours being too much for him, he was also the raid leader, so after that our 2 top dps (boomkin and rogue) deflected to other guilds with better progression (5/13h I believe), then another 2 or 3 people were gone as well. It was a very well-knit group of friends (or so I tought), we've been raiding together since late Ulduar.

    Now I sit bored in two moons every night waiting for lfr queues in alts. Yay.
    Been down that road. You find a guid that you think are all really good friends and have raided with each other for a time only to find out they are really good friends so long as they are progressing. Guilds on my server have a very high turn over rate. The only ones I have found to be shatter proof are the friend/family casual guilds but sadley they cant progress in current content.

    Sadley I think this will be my last raid teir on wow, the community isnt there to support raid guilds anymore without haveing to nearly repate all content to bring someone up to speed.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Kavoo View Post
    Now I sit bored in two moons every night waiting for lfr queues in alts. Yay.
    Don't do that to yourself man, take a break and enjoy your time in between guilds!
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  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Rivyr View Post
    Been down that road. You find a guid that you think are all really good friends and have raided with each other for a time only to find out they are really good friends so long as they are progressing. Guilds on my server have a very high turn over rate. The only ones I have found to be shatter proof are the friend/family casual guilds but sadley they cant progress in current content.

    Sadley I think this will be my last raid teir on wow, the community isnt there to support raid guilds anymore without haveing to nearly repate all content to bring someone up to speed.
    Had someone pug me last week and OH GOD people wiping in normal Tortos and not even being able to handle Megaera in 500+ gear annoys the hell outta me

  6. #46
    I've been in a few over the years that have broken up. In each case, there are 3-4 key people that actually keep the vast majority of the guild functional. When one of those people left and nobody stepped up, the guild started going downhill. Also, when the wrong person steps up, the guild goes downhill.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Volitar View Post
    Don't do that to yourself man, take a break and enjoy your time in between guilds!
    Im also the guild master so I cant get myself to disband a 600 person guild that easily a lot of alts and casual people, guess we managed to grab quite a bunch of known people over the years.

    Also I believe that a good captain must always sink with his ship.

  8. #48
    Can't really say I have... I've been in a few dying ones and one broke up partially, a group staying together on another server.

  9. #49
    Yes. In WOTLK, I ran a guild called The Four Nobles and it was a casual style guild. We ran heroics and Nax, which I tanked. The members were mostly moderately skilled and tended to give up rather easily if we failed a raid, but our other exploits were fun. We ran the Guild Bounty Hunter addon and I had a website on guildportal that I filled to the brim with guides and events. But, after a while waiting on Cataclysm, the people got bored and lazy. They started refusing to help me recruit and just gave up joining in on runs and guild events. They refused to go to the website on top of that so everything I wrote went to waste. They just quit giving a shit but kept logging in and playing the normal amount of time they had been before they became useless.

    I tried to keep things going myself but that wasn't enough. The members just quit caring about the guild despite all the fun we used to have. Turns out some of them were freaks. One guy was addicted to clown porn and sexually harassed some of the female officers.

  10. #50
    Endless wipes on M'uru caused the only guild collapse I've been apart. Weeks of bashing your head against a wall because you didn't have the right class setup just made everyone angry and it just wasn't pleasant.

  11. #51
    During ICC heroic progression the guild master and raid leaders kept on grandfathering in the officers to the raid group, even though they sucked. We benched good players and wiped for hours. Eventually I got invited into an inner circle of players who were planning to leave the guild as start their own once they had enough for a 10 man.

    We all left the night one of our guys destined for the 10 man got his Shadowmourne. To add insult to injury we transferred to the Alliance on the same server (PvP) and ganked our old guildies.

  12. #52
    Raid guild breakup drama is boring. RP guild breakup drama is where the real juicy stuff is at.
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  13. #53
    No exciting drama for me My vanilla launch day guild broke up a couple months after Naxx came out, we'd been stuck on Twins in AQ for what seemed like forever and just couldn't progress anywhere. Frustration ended up breaking us apart.

    I took a few months off then joined my current guild at the start of TBC and running strong ever since.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma View Post
    Eonar EU killed my last guild.

    Finding the required people to bother to turn up to raid was a nightmare, No one turning up meant canceled raids, meaning we dropped down the progression ladder meaning people didn't bother applying. Glad I Moved off that hell hole.


    Aw Sigma you lefted us... I'm on Horde there, and the main raiding guild there has onlyust started heroic progressiion... luckily for us, most people who actually want to raid are getting a share in our guild

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volitar View Post
    Guild has steadily declined each and every tier (even with less guilds raiding per tier) and our core finally had enough of it and tried a guild merger and it didn't go so hot. Most of our people quit, couple went to lesser guilds and a couple went to hardercore guilds.



    ALSO I REMEMBER BAD MOO RISING AND YOU TUMADRE!!!
    SAY WHAT NOW? You were in Get Me Two?! I love finding old raiders from the guild!
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    This was back in patch 4.2 "Rage of the Firelands" during Catafail. I had quit towards the end of WOTLK and then returned to the game during patch 4.2. My guild, originally a Dutch 25 man guild formed in 2006, was reduced to 10 man size, and 80% of my guildies had quit the game. My server had become a dead server, and only my former GM, his wife and the guild's former officers were still playing.

    The guild finally disbanded for good towards the end of Catafail and now every single one of my friends have quit the game. Like many others, they did not return for MoP.
    Veteran vanilla player - I was 31 back in 2005 when I started playing WoW - Nostalrius raider with a top raid guild.

  17. #57
    4 times in my years in WoW has a guild I was in exploded. And it seems I was always the last to know.
    The first time was in molten core, when we blew up a guild by leaving. We had the raid leader, the main tank, two of the best dps (hunters in molten core, it wasn't very hard) a paladin and a druid who didn't know wtf he was doing. We left to join another guild with whom we had had a raiding alliance and that was it for our old guild, they never recovered.

    The second time was when we were just starting tempest keep. Our 40-man guild miraculously only had about 12 people left when tbc launched (still have no idea how that happened) and we merged into another guild with the same problem. I switched to my warrior there and I was tanking and everything was great (scored guild first kara clear on my second week as a tank). We did gruul and were going for void reaver when I went on holiday for a week in the summer. When I got back I was guildless. Turns out the guildmaster (who hadn't even raided in months) kicked everyone who came from my old guild for no apparent reason as well as a number of new recruits and nobody seemed able to reform the guild. Such a shame, cause we were doing really well.

    The guild was, like 8 months later, reformed by the one person who could actually have kept everyone together, but wasn't really playing at the time. We did SSC and TK and tried some hyjal, but we were constantly short one or two people every raid. Until someone from one of the best guilds on the server told our GM "Hey, you have good gear, go apply to us and you'll get in" so he did and he did. We tried to fill the void with me and a rogue nominated in an election, but while that happened we were bleeding our best members and nothing ever came of it.

    Last one was in WotLK, a couple friends of mine started a new guild with the intention of running mostly 10-mans and they approached me. I was in a guild at the time where I despised the guild master and one of the other tanks so I was fine doing that and I joined them as an officer. In the week we started doing 10-mans a pug group also ran 10-man naxx and did slightly better than we did. So we recruited most of that group and we did really well in that tier. We were 4th alliance guild on the server after the 3 guilds that cleared sunwell and just ahead of a guild that got really far in sunwell. and only a few of us had ever done sunwell at all. But then 6 months of naxx happened, months of trying but failing sarth3d and when ulduar came out we weren't 4th alliance but more like 14th. and after killing deconstructor the guild fell apart and that was that.
    I don't think this matters nearly as much as you think it does.

  18. #58
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    An All-friends-guild (12 people, all IRL's) collapsed, for two reasons:
    1. As we were all friends, we couldn't kick the scrubs and hence the skill gap got so big our best players accounted for 2-3 of our worst. Hence progression...died.
    2. Wiping 4 or 5 times = good night for several people...hence no progression...died.

  19. #59
    The LK, both normal and heroic, slew three of my guilds in WoTLK. The first guild couldn't kill him on normal, which lead to not being able to even down the first wing. The second guild got to him early on, around the 5% buff, but had a pattern of wiping in p1, then wiping 2% before the RP event. The third guild took awhile to get to him, but even with the 30% buff, couldn't even get past the first transition. All of them decided they'd sooner just disband then go 10 man. My guild in TBC was destroyed by, inc surprise, M'uru. Another of my guilds died in Ulduar to who would get Valanyr first. An officer swapped to healer because we needed them, and was angry he wasn't picked to get the first one over a healer we had since we started raiding.

  20. #60
    I've been playing since vanilla and have always stayed with my guilds until they've disbanded (or otherwise just died down to nothing). I've also been playing on the same server with the same main character the entire time.

    Guild #1: I was in from the time I started playing until about level 40 on my main, when it broke up. Not sure what it was about, but I believe it boiled down to a pissing contest between the GM and his second in command that caused a huge split in the guild (half the core raiders took one side and the other half took the other side) and ultimately killed it.

    Guild #2: One of the good raiding guilds on my server had a second "alt guild" for their alts, and I made friends with a couple of them, so I got in that. I was in that until a little after hitting 60. There wasn't much to do in an alt guild though, and their "main" guild was a bit too hardcore for me when it came to raiding (you couldn't even get in as a member unless you were geared and all gung-ho about doing AQ40), so I moved on elsewhere.

    Guilds #3, 4, 5 were basically the same group of people, and those guilds all ended up merging into each other. That ended in about early BC, when we ended up becoming a "stepping stone" guild where people would run heroics / Karazhan with us to get geared before moving on, and most of the constant members were tired of that, so we ended up merging with yet another guild that was capable of raiding.

    Guild #6: I stayed with that guild from early BC all the way to the end of Cata and actively raided with them that whole time. End of Cata, that guild decided to server/faction transfer, and it didn't work out, so they kinda died. I still have a couple of toons in the guild, but they've had something like 5 people online within the last week, so it's not very alive anymore. The fact that so many of us were getting bored with Dragon Soul combined with the fact that our server was dying (which led to discussions about transferring) I think is what killed that guild.

    I am now in a friend's guild with a "social" kind of status and just hang out there / occasionally serve as a backup if they're short a raid DPS. I actively raided the entire time I was in guild #6. Only just recently reactivated my account after a 6-month break at the end of Cataclysm and am not sure I want to get back into active raiding on a schedule.
    Last edited by Ciddy; 2013-05-17 at 04:41 PM.

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