Page 10 of 10 FirstFirst ...
8
9
10
  1. #181
    Lightforged Draenei
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Frankfurt Germany
    Posts
    2,726
    Quote Originally Posted by ablib View Post
    If people have paid thousands, they need their heads examined.
    So far @ 1.200 euros over the past 7 years. Imagine that money spent on alcohol and bitches in nightclubs, so I see nothing wrong my head. Many people like to invest a lot in their hobby and there is nothing wrong with that.

  2. #182
    Dreadlord Whidbey's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Whidbey Island, WA USA
    Posts
    753
    No free to play is not a good model to resort to, unless that is how the game starts out like say, Marvel Heroes. But when another game such as a mmorpg starts out as a subscription and then goes free to play it's because it's struggling. WoW is in no way struggling. Tons of players leave WoW to try other games, but I'd gues 90% come back within a year. It's a classic and still very much a currently active game without as some mmorpgs have, any major issues.

  3. #183
    The Insane Aquamonkey's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Universe
    Posts
    18,149
    Quote Originally Posted by taurenguard View Post
    So far @ 1.200 euros over the past 7 years. Imagine that money spent on alcohol and bitches in nightclubs, so I see nothing wrong my head. Many people like to invest a lot in their hobby and there is nothing wrong with that.
    $15/mo on WoW vs hundreds of dollars per week in nightclubs. Even skipping the nightclubs and just getting alcohol from a store would be $30/week.

  4. #184
    Maybe not this year, but if subs keep dropping that rapidly they will have no choice but to consider it. I can hardly see many new players starting with WoW at this point, and most old schoolers will get bored very quickly.

    Nothing wrong with the F2P model trough, don't understand why people hate it so much...

  5. #185
    Mechagnome Aztrazolo's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Atlanta, Georgia
    Posts
    529
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    I would be surprised it WOW has not gone F2P by the end of next year.
    There is zero chance of that happening. Seriously. There is zero incentive to do that even at half of its current subscription base.
    Blindingly defending Blizzard; ignorantly trashing Blizzard. Both require an emotional investment that I'm unwilling to give. I'll take reason, logic, facts, and the willingness to accept that I may be wrong. At the end of the day I'll have nothing to account for and I may even have learned something.

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    The issue is not whether there is a profit to made from the subscription model rather is there more to made from the F2P model.
    Personally? I think they'd lose the profit if they switched right NOW.

    If they made the switch when subscribers are around 2 million, then it'd be a smart choice.

    The whole thing is that a large number of people wouldn't do the new subscription model and simply do the free to play way.

    In the subscription model you'd imagine things like full access to raids, BGs, PVP, etc, but not everyone does those things, and a large number of them would just stick to playing the game for free.
    Quote Originally Posted by Princess Kenny View Post
    Avocado is a tropical fruit , south seas expansion confirmed.

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Here is some simple math for you.

    Consider WoW having 3,5M subscribers in the West, being their main source of revenue (90% of it). Last quarter, a 1,3M subloss, let's say 500k of those belonged to the West.

    6 more quarters like that and WoW will have how many subscribers left in the West? ... 500.000


    Depending on how well or badly WoW will do over the next 1.5 - 2 years, the game going F2P might be more realistic than people imagine...
    It'll happen once subscribers are actually low.

    For those of you who think 8 million+ is low..you are mistaken 100%.
    Quote Originally Posted by Princess Kenny View Post
    Avocado is a tropical fruit , south seas expansion confirmed.

  8. #188
    Should WoW go free to play? No...at least not yet.

    The game is still too successful to take that option into consideration, and by successful I mean subscriber wise. Numbers speaks for itself. When the time comes, then we'll see if Blizzard decides to cut us a break. It may not be soon and it may not be within the next few years, but that time will come eventually.

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Destil View Post
    Personally? I think they'd lose the profit if they switched right NOW.

    If they made the switch when subscribers are around 2 million, then it'd be a smart choice.

    The whole thing is that a large number of people wouldn't do the new subscription model and simply do the free to play way.

    In the subscription model you'd imagine things like full access to raids, BGs, PVP, etc, but not everyone does those things, and a large number of them would just stick to playing the game for free.
    The problem is you are not taking into account that subs are currently falling at a rapid rate and there have been no gains in sub numbers, apart from short lived spikes, since 2008. In order to maintain profitability they have to do something to reverse the sub losses it is clear that the content being released is not only failing to attract new customers but is, also, failing to hold on the existing players thus it is logical that the next step would be to look at the current pricing model.

    If rumours are to be believed SWTOR had roughly 350k subs prior to switching to F2P it now has just under 500k whilst there is no guarantee that WOW would see similar gains it is certainly food for thought.

    WOW has the capacity to deal with far more players than it currently has so what does it matter if a large number of players play for free? The key is that not all of them will and even if a player only purchases services for $3 or $4 per month that is $3 or $4 that Blizzard did not previously have when you take in account about the numbers that WOW could attract if it went F2P you are potentially looking at several million in additional income per month.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Here is some simple math for you.

    Consider WoW having 3,5M subscribers in the West, being their main source of revenue (90% of it). Last quarter, a 1,3M subloss, let's say 500k of those belonged to the West.

    6 more quarters like that and WoW will have how many subscribers left in the West? ... 500.000


    Depending on how well or badly WoW will do over the next 1.5 - 2 years, the game going F2P might be more realistic than people imagine...
    Thank you this is the point I keep making but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

  10. #190
    Sorry but the entire discusion is a insult towards not just Blizzard but other game developers.

    Most (if not all) would sell their kidney to be in a similar position as Blizzard, even if the subs drops below 2m every other developer would still want to have WoW.

    Every other MMO that was forced to go to f2p only did when the number of subs where so low (below 500k) that they had no choice to go f2p because otherwise the game would be dead. WoW with it's worldwide 8M players has such a strong position that it will take at least 2 years before Blizzard has to consider going to f2p.

    What Blizzard actually should be aiming is to get new generation of players for the next expansion. Get the Warcraft movie out, make some new commercials, bundle the entire WoW expansions (including MoP) to a single pack so the games become less intimidating. At this point it isn't about quality or the game being to easy/hard, its about having a game that is 9 years old and that is bleeding subs because old players for whatever reason aren't returning anymore.

  11. #191
    Legendary! SinR's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    My Own Personal Hell
    Posts
    6,286
    Can it? Yes
    Will it anytime soon? No
    We're all newbs, some are just more newbier than others.

    Just a burned out hardcore raider turned casual.
    I'm tired. So very tired. Can I just lay my head on your lap and fall asleep?
    #TeamFuckEverything

  12. #192
    Legendary! Vargur's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    European Federation
    Posts
    6,664
    Quote Originally Posted by XanderZone View Post
    World of Warcraft has been going strong since its release, but recently I've been reading threads stating that it's in decline. I have not noticed anything "declining" but I'm starting to get worried. If going F2P would bring down the quality of the game, I wouldn't want it to, and I'm also aware that WoW is still one of the best MMORPGs worldwide, and that's why those threads confused me.

    I would like to get other people's opinions on the matter, and what you think should be done.
    You could've just searched, there's 500 threads already asking for "opinions"... this last week.
    Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings.
    To resist the influence of others, knowledge of oneself is most important.


  13. #193
    no absolutely not!

  14. #194
    They would lose a crap load of money going freeplay, i don't think they'll risk that. Unless however - they are deciding to add a new game, in which they'll most probably shift resources into the new game and still get a lot of traffic coming onto WoW to promote the new game. But that is a big look behind why they would possibly go freeplay.

  15. #195
    High Overlord
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    164
    Quote Originally Posted by ablib View Post
    If people have paid thousands, they need their heads examined.
    Well if someone had been playing since the beginning...

    $15 a month, x12 months = $180 a year
    It's been out for over 8 years, so $180 x8 years = $1,440

    And that's JUST for the monthly subscription. Add on to that all the costs of all the expansions, plus any kind of pets/mounts bought in the Blizz store, plus any character transfer or faction change, and yea it could be a couple thousand...

  16. #196
    Deleted
    No, it shouldn't. Definitely not.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •