Originally Posted by
K-b
I think it's sad to let a really important lore character take a dramatic change in personality just to satisfy some base of the community.
Post Cataclysm;-
The character came from a popular family background, shares traits with his father and the pride of his legacy. Rash, young and proud. Yet despite this, at least throughout the course of cataclysm, he represented a great becon for the war machine to advance. And it did, numerous successes the Horde gained in the wake of the cataclysm is not denied by anyone, and Garrosh takes the credit. He made the war machine prosper to such a degree, since the peak of the second war.
Forced upon him, the hate of a Troll who's "nation" was nearly wiped out by fish creatures, when in fact the truth was, the Trolls were downright useless for the past two expansions. "Now that we've assembled an 80 man raid and called for a world event, we just might get back that island over there that no one gives a half a crap about"
Forced upon him, the hate of the Taurne, who's august leader jumped into a ridiculous conclusion of Garrosh's involvement in an ambush, humiliated him, and challanged him on a fight to the death. Yet Garrosh is plunged into a sea of whiners who call him a murderer when he had nothing to do with the poisoned axe, effectively denouncing Magatha's requests to aid her in the capture of Thunder Bluff and calling her an enemy.
Forced upon him, the hate of the Grand Alliance, which is undeniably well earned. A pure horde-alliance conflict, with a leader who despised them to the core, taking advantage of the cataclysm and shifting the balance of power to the highest of it's capabilities. Its sad the horde players ignore this part of success about Garrosh. A guy that hates the blue flag.
Post Cataclysm. This character, despite being mildly incompetent and rash, had done a hell of a good job in the battlefield, and in a war full of conflict and hate, a good leader like that was needed, just as Thrall had said so, that the horde needed a true leader, and Garrosh carried that charisma in him. Even if he was rash and proud, attempts were seen on the extent of his ability to learn and appreciate (Stonetalon QL, Saurfang Speech, the high cheif's mercy)
Now here's the onion.
"Yea, well, I do suppose we started Garrosh with an unrecoverable negetive effect that the idiotic community can't see past through, so lets just scarp it off"
And then BAM. Destroys a level 35 quest zone, writes a book about it, uses dark shamans, executes trolls, becomes a hundred times more wroth, power hungry, moronic. Jumps into old god involvement, evil, savage, and commands the Horde as if it was his personal toy
"Woah, Woah, just what the $%^# happened?"
I still find if amazing about this sudden change in personality. I mean, how the hell did a character jump to such a gigantic leap in his personality is beyond me. It may have been foreshadowed, but there were simply too much directions that pointed Garrosh into having a good side.
After all hes done in MoP, no shit. This character should simply die, yet even till now I never feel the hate he should be deserving. Why? I almost feel like it isnt his fault. Like some puppet strings just got a hold of him and did all the work. This leap of personality changed everything about him, whatever he deserves just doesn't feel, "valid".
In my perspective view on him post-cata, Garrosh was anything but a monster. He WAS undeniably honorable, there is simply no debate to this, the guy never did anything without caring for his people, the Ashenvale Invasion being to stop the starvation of his people.
He was Not power hungry, he was not Weak, he was most certainly not a Moron, the prime characteristics a leader should avoid having.
It was just this MASSIVE CHANGE that took rampart when the mists came that changed everything about him.
So yea, I can't hate him. I simply can't imagine a character like that, who had such good potential, to just CHANGE with nothing to back it up. Could we at least get some sort of hint of what happened? Did this Malakarokk Character come and change things, or did he just get spawned from Blizzard's console engine. Was he controlled, some hint or idea of what or who controlled him?
"Oh yea, well there's this shit called the Sha of Pride, yea that'l have a nice ring to it"
Just Ridiculous.