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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    I'm waiting for the patch to be ready for release before writing ANYTHING up.
    Well, yeah, but I still need to understand it. Got a sub to the game again today and having a play now, should be all good I can't write about something I don't know, that'd be silly.
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    Also a vegetable is a person.
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    I dont care if they [gays] are allowed to donate [blood], but I think we should have an option to refuse gay blood if we need to receive blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimord View Post
    It still won't beat DP, though, will it?
    It turns AW into an insane cd - that's enough for it to become the best choice for some fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairobi View Post
    Depending on the final values of CDR%, we'll see AW at ~2mins if the values are accurate @39%.
    Even if it's 39% faster that's most likely just a 28% reduction - still strong enough to blow HA out of the water.

    Edit: You can do double posts now o0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo View Post
    Edit: You can do double posts now o0?
    I am screwed then since I often dont bother edit, I just make new posts since I know they will be automatically edited into the old one inb4 firefly quad posts.

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    Pages of Firefly posts incoming talking to himself.

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    I'm here to derail (briefly) again!

    Which of the 75 talents do you pick for HC Dark Animus?

    I was running DP yesterday but sometimes I'd have trouble in the initial seconds (when tanking 3 small adds)... Building up over 600k+ can be super fun/painful so I switched to HA, but then the rest of the fight is more a constant stream of medium damage ('cept for the explosions and shit) and I kind of wonder if DP is worth it then?

    If it matters, it's possible we're running a bad strat, we just started progress yesterday (missed a bunch of time due to people going off in vacation and wtvr) and what we do is:

    BrM takes one add + boss to the middle of the room.

    DPS kill 6 adds into the inactive large golems.

    I take 3 adds into one of the massive golems, kill 2 into it then proceed around the room putting inactive golems into the massive one, plus one add off a healer, until it's full. When it's full I activate the second massive and go soak the rest of the small adds. Then I'll just go stand next to the boss, away from the other tank, and tank the 2 massives there until we switch (though we're having trouble switching since he can only taunt one add at a time).

    Anyhow, we always wipe at around 50% HP on the boss (when I'm halfway through filling the second massive or just after I've done it) so.. yea >.<

  7. #2747
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    While the SotR uptime is close, you have to remember the 20% healing taken increase, SW provides about 10% longer uptime than HA, but it also provides 20% healing increase for 30 seconds, and I would also take a guess that it will also provide higher dps now aswell.
    That was my point, that SW is now more "mainstream" of a good talent, instead of just you. It's got the HA-like "wall" on demand, along with the extra 50% duration of increased dmg AND healing for that duration of spamming ShotR. Downside is the 3min aspect, but if the trinkets go live, we're looking at ~2mins instead.

    HA is all but dead in 5.4

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimord View Post
    I'm here to derail (briefly) again!

    Which of the 75 talents do you pick for HC Dark Animus?

    I was running DP yesterday but sometimes I'd have trouble in the initial seconds (when tanking 3 small adds)... Building up over 600k+ can be super fun/painful so I switched to HA, but then the rest of the fight is more a constant stream of medium damage ('cept for the explosions and shit) and I kind of wonder if DP is worth it then?

    If it matters, it's possible we're running a bad strat, we just started progress yesterday (missed a bunch of time due to people going off in vacation and wtvr) and what we do is:

    BrM takes one add + boss to the middle of the room.

    DPS kill 6 adds into the inactive large golems.

    I take 3 adds into one of the massive golems, kill 2 into it then proceed around the room putting inactive golems into the massive one, plus one add off a healer, until it's full. When it's full I activate the second massive and go soak the rest of the small adds. Then I'll just go stand next to the boss, away from the other tank, and tank the 2 massives there until we switch (though we're having trouble switching since he can only taunt one add at a time).

    Anyhow, we always wipe at around 50% HP on the boss (when I'm halfway through filling the second massive or just after I've done it) so.. yea >.<
    HA all the way. I grab 3 adds at the start and pop Wings/HA, GoAK and AD (just in case), then lulz as I get veng capped and spike to 1.2mil-ish DPS. DP may be better throughput later on, but your damage on the massives means fuck-all. HA is nice too, since if you run UbS for that, you can bubble off a stack of smash, then HA and reset the bubble quickly.

    Also, just from my POV, the fight is trivial if you 3-tank. We leave our monk on Animus, and me and another pala do adds. We fill up simultaneously (he only gets 2 adds, so his side is a bit slower, but this is good, since it means staggering matter swaps), then I take his while he resets, he takes mine, etc etc repeat until dead.

    We tried 2 tanking, just wasn't worth it. 3tank/2heal makes it a joke. And doing it this way means that you don't have to feel "bad" about missing out on DP, since youre only on the boss for ~15 secs each 40-60 while resetting. Also, doesn't rely on bubble/clearing (though you CAN do that, if needed). I usually work in more boss time dependng on position of fonts, melee, etc...but it's mostly gravy.
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    We'll all be appropriately shocked/amazed when Nairobi actually gets an avatar, but until then, let's try to not derail the thread heckling him about it.
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    If it was that easy don't you think we would have figured that out? (Source)
    20k and counting...

  8. #2748
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    You're all forgetting the most important aspect of HA - Corrupted Ashbringer..

  9. #2749
    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    You're all forgetting the most important aspect of HA - Corrupted Ashbringer..
    Except it's not corrupted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celinamuna View Post
    Except it's not corrupted.
    brainfart. It just further proves my point as Ashbringer > Corrupted.

  11. #2751
    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    brainfart. It just further proves my point as Ashbringer > Corrupted.
    1 shiny sword for 18 sec < 4 shiny wings for 10 sec.

  12. #2752
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    Quote Originally Posted by celinamuna View Post
    1 shiny sword for 18 sec < 4 shiny wings for 10 sec.
    1 very shiny sword vs. some rather poorly executed 4 wings*

  13. #2753
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairobi View Post
    HA all the way. I grab 3 adds at the start and pop Wings/HA, GoAK and AD (just in case), then lulz as I get veng capped and spike to 1.2mil-ish DPS. DP may be better throughput later on, but your damage on the massives means fuck-all. HA is nice too, since if you run UbS for that, you can bubble off a stack of smash, then HA and reset the bubble quickly.

    Also, just from my POV, the fight is trivial if you 3-tank. We leave our monk on Animus, and me and another pala do adds. We fill up simultaneously (he only gets 2 adds, so his side is a bit slower, but this is good, since it means staggering matter swaps), then I take his while he resets, he takes mine, etc etc repeat until dead.

    We tried 2 tanking, just wasn't worth it. 3tank/2heal makes it a joke. And doing it this way means that you don't have to feel "bad" about missing out on DP, since youre only on the boss for ~15 secs each 40-60 while resetting. Also, doesn't rely on bubble/clearing (though you CAN do that, if needed). I usually work in more boss time dependng on position of fonts, melee, etc...but it's mostly gravy.
    We 2-tank because we don't have a reliable 3rd tank for heroic progression (or any progression at all) >.<!

    My biggest problem while taking the 2 big adds on my own was sometimes the "swap" dude would fuck up and I'd get bitched around the room with matter swap and waste a lot of time (or lose whatever cooldown I had up for Explosive Slam and die when the adds get next to me).

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    I have a question, dunno if this is the correct place to ask it. but it is quite paladin specific, so here I go:

    on my warrior I had a tracker that showed me "If I press shield barrier (the absorb thing) NOW, how much does it absorb" (and how much is left from that after i pressed it and it was up). it was done somehow via weak auras.

    now the question is:
    is there a possible way to tell the following:
    If I press sacred shield now, the ticks will absorb xyz damage per (this most likely is pretty "easy", because it is based on veng level).
    if sacred shield is currently running, the current ticks absorbs are zyx damage per.

    ?

    thanks for any input
    -xeb

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    I use TellMeWhen to tell me how much it is absorbing ATM, haven't tried making what you asked in the first line that, from what I understood, is have it tell you "If you click me now I'll absorb THIS much damage".

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    I use theck's weakaura string for that:

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  17. #2757
    So guys what do you think Fabled feather of Ji Kun or Brutal Talisman of SPA?
    I can reach hit cap easily and exp too with some reforging. Most of my items are haste reforged. ilvl 516

  18. #2758
    Quote Originally Posted by Seanali View Post
    So guys what do you think Fabled feather of Ji Kun or Brutal Talisman of SPA?
    I can reach hit cap easily and exp too with some reforging. Most of my items are haste reforged. ilvl 516
    Discussed tons earlier.

    Feather+Spark is BIS combo.
    SPA is a good "filler" trinket, if youre unlucky in acquiring the above.


    edit: osnap, 1k posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthanis View Post
    We'll all be appropriately shocked/amazed when Nairobi actually gets an avatar, but until then, let's try to not derail the thread heckling him about it.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    If it was that easy don't you think we would have figured that out? (Source)
    20k and counting...

  19. #2759
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    Should be noted though that spark is only BiS presuming you can actually use the hit.

  20. #2760
    Quote Originally Posted by Nairobi View Post
    edit: osnap, 1k posts
    and still no Avatar..
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    People on this site hate everything. Keep that in mind.

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