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    RPPM opener aka Solar opener

    May i know what is the solar opener?

    I understand that i have to start in the solar eclipse, pop CA and inc, but when i activate my CA, wouldnt it reset my eclipse bar to 0 ?

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    I was under the impression that you pop inc on the pull and then do CA once you hit 0
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatredAU View Post
    I was under the impression that you pop inc on the pull and then do CA once you hit 0
    that would defeat the whole purpose of opening in solar

    its does reset it to 0 so it skip having to do solar and usally have procs/lust/meta to get into lunar quick enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalfears View Post
    that would defeat the whole purpose of opening in solar

    its does reset it to 0 so it skip having to do solar and usally have procs/lust/meta to get into lunar quick enough
    So what i have to do is to
    1) Go into solar eclipse
    2) Prepot/ starfall
    2) Activate ca/ inc [ trinklets/ racial/ profession bonus ]
    3) DoT with sunfire/moonfire
    4) Starfire ( starsurge with shooting stars procs)
    5 ) Refresh starfall when first duration ends.
    6) Cycle to lunar Eclipse
    7) Refresh starfall when 2nd duration ends.
    8) Cycle to solar Eclipse
    9) Refresh Moonfire before Celestial Alignment expires.
    10) Continue cycling to next eclipse.
    11) Refresh dots before incarnation drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbi View Post
    So what i have to do is to
    1) Go into solar eclipse
    2) Prepot/ starfall
    2) Activate ca/ inc [ trinklets/ racial/ profession bonus ]
    3) DoT with sunfire/moonfire
    4) Starfire ( starsurge with shooting stars procs)
    5 ) Refresh starfall when first duration ends.
    6) Cycle to lunar Eclipse
    7) Refresh starfall when 2nd duration ends.
    8) Cycle to solar Eclipse
    9) Refresh Moonfire before Celestial Alignment expires.
    10) Continue cycling to next eclipse.
    11) Refresh dots before incarnation drops.
    Pretty much, but Celestial Alignment ends after 15 seconds, and furthermore it halts your eclipse progression so it wouldn't be active when you entered the first Solar. After CA ends you cycle normally, but Incarnation is active and amplifies your next Lunar eclipse - it should expire before you reach Solar.

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    Am I correct in assuming the intent of this opener is to be in CA for as long as possible with all the rppm procs up? if so, does that mean we go back to the pre-lunar style when using inc/ca for the 2nd or 3rd time during a fight as it yields better dps without all those procs up together, or does this style give better dps than the old one in newer gear even without the procs lining up?

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    Correct; back to using incarnation on fresh lunar and then ca afterwards for 2nd n 3rd set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xtramuscle View Post
    Correct; back to using incarnation on fresh lunar and then ca afterwards for 2nd n 3rd set.
    You can use the initial opener as you're leaving a Solar eclipse - it wont make a difference, just CA at different points. Neither setup will net more average damage.

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    Do we need 2 RPPM trinkets to swap to this opener? At the moment I have just one - Cha Ye's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durrtygoodz View Post
    Do we need 2 RPPM trinkets to swap to this opener? At the moment I have just one - Cha Ye's.
    It's advantageous with at least 2 RPPM things, which includes the meta gem. So Cha-Ye's + meta would be enough. I reckon the meta gem itself would be cause for using the newer opener just because it'll let you cram a lot more casts into your CA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippykins View Post
    It's advantageous with at least 2 RPPM things, which includes the meta gem. So Cha-Ye's + meta would be enough. I reckon the meta gem itself would be cause for using the newer opener just because it'll let you cram a lot more casts into your CA.
    Well I'm miles off my meta atm Was supposed to finish the sigils this week but was stuck on 9 Powers for 16 bosses, kept getting Wisdoms! Won't be seeing the gem until next tier at this rate.

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