Demands of the Alliance if they win ?

[Viscoe]

HAHAHAHHAHAHA! Charred Vale story! How ironic. xD
Well, I believe Tauren and Night Elves can get along well. As for Orcs and Goblins, they have to go.
Dwarves and Humans will go away too since they're only here to militarily support the Night elves. If they don't have any battles to fight, they'll just leave a token outpost and that's it. The Alliance needs its army at - To be concluded in the next expansion -

Stonetalon, prior to Cataclysm, was a place for both tauren and night elves that both worshipped and whatever at Stonetalon Peak. They lived in peace with each other for a long time... and then, as with everything else, Hellscream had to come stomping around being a derp. So I can see the Horde withdrawing from Stonetalon and the whole zone going back to how it used to be, with logging operations still continuing even. And I'd assume the Alliance would also withdraw, perhaps leaving some protection for the nelves since they'd still be getting over Krom'gar's terrorism.

Ashenvale, though, yeah, I think the Horde should withdraw with the exception of the troll outpost that's always been there to the far west. Perhaps the night elves and remaining orcs can work out some trade for lumber.

[MagicBanana]

Alliance "wins", they demand withdrawl from places like Ashenvale, Horde will do so in lore, but not in game.

The Horde will keep their cities, reform their power structure, and appoint a new Warchief or War Council or whatever and things will go on as though the Horde didn't have a defeat in the first place.

Next expansion it will be status quo with Horde and Alliance equal in terms of strength/power but uniting against a common enemy.

These are my predictions.

This sounds most probable & realistic to me tbh.

[Viscoe]

Some sort of recompensation for the events of Theramore

Honestly, how would you "make up for" anything in Theramore? "Here you guys go, we're going to let you sack Razor Hill. Have fun!"

I believe all the people responsible have already been addressed, unless you wanna get into the whole "Did Aethas do it or not!" argument. Thalen Songweaver's still free, though - take him from us, sure. We have like a billion more elves laying around. ;P

All the unspeakable criminals are dead or are going to die in SoO, I think.

[Myrandron]

Honestly, how would you "make up for" anything in Theramore? "Here you guys go, we're going to let you sack Razor Hill. Have fun!"

I believe all the people responsible have already been addressed, unless you wanna get into the whole "Did Aethas do it or not!" argument. Thalen Songweaver's still free, though - take him from us, sure. We have like a billion more elves laying around. ;P

All the unspeakable criminals are dead or are going to die in SoO, I think.

I dunno how exactly one repays blowing up an entire town, could just be giving them materials or something of value in return, I dunno I guess killing Garrosh might be good repayment for it.

[Viscoe]

I dunno how exactly one repays blowing up an entire town, could just be giving them materials or something of value in return, I dunno I guess killing Garrosh might be good repayment for it.

That's about what I was thinking. Destroy the person who made it happen.

They could of course help rebuild, but that probably won't happen, considering that the Horde probably does not want a military base run by their enemy so close to home. We saw what good letting their bases be did (Camp T. Though to be fair, that was Northwatch Hold.)

[Deleted]

If we're talking a Treaty of Versailles style thing here rather than fanboy demands...

The Horde would probably pull out of Arathi, Ashenvale and back from Gilneas. There would probably be a limit placed on how many soldiers the Horde can have in its armed forces to limit the threat of fighting again. The Horde would be made to pay repatriations in gold and resources to the Alliance for damage done and lives lost in the war as well as be requested to hand over those convicted of war crimes. That last point the Horde would probably refuse.

Large war making machines, demolishers etc would be destroyed and a limit would also be placed on the size of the Horde's navy.

[Mormolyce]

I'm not just talking about Tirisfal and Silverpine, I'm talking about what most of the people who want land back are talking about - that is to say, all of Lordaeron. Hillsbrad and Arathi especially. Places the Forsaken have conquered with military might, and therefore own.

Where are the former inhabitants of Hillsbrad and Arathi?

[Aquamonkey]

The Horde would be made to pay repatriations in gold and resources to the Alliance for damage done and lives lost in the war

Where exactly is that going to come from? The Horde was barely scraping by, that's one of the primary reasons for Garrosh's expansionist agenda: The Alliance being selfish and hoarding resources the Horde needed for survival.

[docterfreeze]

Seeing that varian never wears a helmet, i think it would be easier for vol'jin to just shoot him through the brain than let him rattle of demands to the horde.

[Deleted]

The Horde territory is split into two parts. East and West. The western territories go to the humans, dwarves and gnomes, while the eastern territories go to the space goats. Neutral territories will be restored and given back under the watch of the Night Elves.
The capital city, Orgrimmar is also split into east and west despite being located in the dreanei territory.
After a while the dreanei say "lolwutreleasethekrakenblarghlblrgh" and they build a wall.

The Horde has to pay reparations to the Alliance for the gigantic amounts of money it took to obliterate the true horde but they can't pay enough because of the huge taxes on the neutral auction house.

Then one day Garrosh, who didn't die but escaped to the dark side of the moon will return to conquer the world... riding on dinosaurs and wielding mighty lightsabers.
Garrosh will be the ruler of the world because of his supra-orc-manbearpig-soldiers and wants to kill every other orcish race that basically looks like himself.
Then he marries the princess THE END

[Dreknar20]

If we're talking a Treaty of Versailles style thing here rather than fanboy demands...

Large war making machines, demolishers etc would be destroyed and a limit would also be placed on the size of the Horde's navy.

lol Treaty of Versailles?
Cause that worked out well didnt it.........

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Where exactly is that going to come from? The Horde was barely scraping by, that's one of the primary reasons for Garrosh's expansionist agenda: The Alliance being selfish and hoarding resources the Horde needed for survival.

and heaping insult and humiliation upon a defeated faction does not really invoke feelings of freindship

[Deleted]

Treaty of Versailles style would be awesome... but never gonna happen, lawl. But i made one, too.

The Treaty of Ironforge

• Article 231 (the so-called "War Guilt Clause") stated The Nation of Durotar accepted responsibility for "all the loss and damage to which the Allied and Associated Governments and their nationals have been subjected as a consequence of the war imposed upon them by the aggression of Durotar and her allies." Similar wording was used in the treaties signed by the other Horde nations, having them accept responsibility for the damage they and their allies caused.
  
• Horde armed forces will number no more than 10,000 troops, and conscription will be abolished.
• Enlisted men will be retained for at least 12 years; officers to be retained for at least 25 years.
• Horde naval forces will be limited to 1,5000 men, six battleships (no more than 1,000 tons displacement each) and no submarines.
• The import and export of weapons is prohibited (except in a case of defense against a Third Power (Burning Legion, Old Gods,...), then the Alliance has to send them reinforcements, weapons and resources.)
• Plague gas, armed aircraft and, siege weapons are prohibited.
• Blockades on ships are prohibited.
• Horde armed forces are prohibited from entering or fortifying any part of Horde territory within 20 kilometres south and east of Ashenvale, 30 kilometres south in the northern Barrens; Silverpine Forest is a completly demilitarized zone, in Stonetalon Mountains and Desolace guarding service is allowed (no more than 300 guards in total).
  
• Eastern Ashenvale and western Azshara is given back to the Night elves. Arathi Basin, Hillsbrad, Alterac and the Western Plaguelands with out the Argent Crusade controlled territory are given to the re-established Kingdom of Arathor, which is a vasall to the Kingdom of Stormwind. The part south of Shadowfang Keep is now Gilnean territory. Southern Durotar is given to the Darkspear trolls (mich means everything south of Razor Hill is now troll land), the destroyed castle of Kul'Tiras is now fortified by the alliance and services now as an Alliance outpost in Durotar.
  
• The Houjin Pandaren and the Blood Elves have the chance to become citizens of the Alliance and leaving the Horde.
  
• The Horde has to pay 30 billion gold as reparation.

[Aquamonkey]

Treaty of Versailles style would be awesome... but never gonna happen, lawl. But i made one, too.

The Treaty of Ironforge

• Article 231 (the so-called "War Guilt Clause") stated The Nation of Durotar accepted responsibility for "all the loss and damage to which the Allied and Associated Governments and their nationals have been subjected as a consequence of the war imposed upon them by the aggression of Durotar and her allies." Similar wording was used in the treaties signed by the other Horde nations, having them accept responsibility for the damage they and their allies caused.
  
• Horde armed forces will number no more than 10,000 troops, and conscription will be abolished.
• Enlisted men will be retained for at least 12 years; officers to be retained for at least 25 years.
• Horde naval forces will be limited to 1,5000 men, six battleships (no more than 1,000 tons displacement each) and no submarines.
• The import and export of weapons is prohibited (except in a case of defense against a Third Power (Burning Legion, Old Gods,...), then the Alliance has to send them reinforcements, weapons and resources.)
• Plague gas, armed aircraft and, siege weapons are prohibited.
• Blockades on ships are prohibited.
• Horde armed forces are prohibited from entering or fortifying any part of Horde territory within 20 kilometres south and east of Ashenvale, 30 kilometres south in the northern Barrens; Silverpine Forest is a completly demilitarized zone, in Stonetalon Mountains and Desolace guarding service is allowed (no more than 300 guards in total).
  
• Eastern Ashenvale and western Azshara is given back to the Night elves. Arathi Basin, Hillsbrad, Alterac and the Western Plaguelands with out the Argent Crusade controlled territory are given to the re-established Kingdom of Arathor, which is a vasall to the Kingdom of Stormwind. The part south of Shadowfang Keep is now Gilnean territory. Southern Durotar is given to the Darkspear trolls (mich means everything south of Razor Hill is now troll land), the destroyed castle of Kul'Tiras is now fortified by the alliance and services now as an Alliance outpost in Durotar.
  
• The Houjin Pandaren and the Blood Elves have the chance to become citizens of the Alliance and leaving the Horde.
  
• The Horde has to pay 30 billion gold as reparation.

I hope you liked Garrosh, because you're only going to get a hardliner even worse than him. I guess you didn't realize that Hitler rose to power using the Treaty of Versailles for nationalistic propaganda and a scapegoat for the economic depression in Germany.

And just completely ignore the fact that the Alliance is working with the rebellion which makes up the majority of Horde factions. And Garrosh got so much support in the first place because he supplied the resources they needed for survival despite the Alliance being selfish and hoarding them.

[Aeula]

'Don't do it again, ok ?' - Varian

[Deleted]

If the Alliance would win ANYTHING against the horde, the horde players would drop on their knees, look to the sky and scream "Metzen, why hast thou forsaken us ?!".

[Deleted]

Do you really want a list of what the Alliance wants/needs?

In brief and in broad strokes we demand:

• The Kingdom of Kul Tiras with his powerful naval fleet commanded by his Lord Admiral Tandred Proudmoore
• The kingdom of Stromgarde with the return of Danath Trollbane to stop the Forsaken advance
• All the exiled high elves reunited and led by Alleria Windrunner being an important part of the Alliance (and the High Elves as a playable race)
• Turalyon's return and the restoration of the Order of the Silver Hand headed by him. Making the paladins the representative class of the Alliance and Turalyon their champion
• The apparition of Queen Calia and her Scarlet Dawn to fight for reclaim Lordaeron
• Greater involvement of the Kirin Tor and Dalaran in the affairs of the Alliance, landing Dalaran over the Theramore ruins
• More personality and self-sufficiency for all the non-human races, unlinking them somewhat from the Stormwind humans (Varian) making them less human dependent (specially the Nigh Elves) and giving them a greater role and prominence (for example making the Night Elves recover Ashenvale)
• Related to the previous point, more lore for all races, not just for the humans of Stormwind, with an emphasis on the forgotten races (gnomes, draenei, etc)
• Reclaiming the Kingdom of Gilneas for their legitimate owners, which are not mascots of the night elves. Greymane City as a new fully capital city for the Alliance
• Reconstruction of the district destroyed by Deathwing in Stormwind (perhaps making a elven district as "capital" for the Quel'dorei)
• Making gnomes having finally have a decent capital: conquer Gnomeregan or re-found it elsewhere (a flyer technological robo-city for example)
• Expel the Dark Iron dwarves of the Alliance or at least create some conflicts with them. They have been a treacherous and dark race and an enemy of the other dwarf clans for generations, thus they can not be trusted of day to the next
• ...

What else can you think of?

Agree, Hight elves for Alliance, but where start de helves, north abenny? Quel thalas?

[Jackkernaut]

You guys REALLY overestimated Sylvanas.
NOT all the undead creatures are Forsaken but a really minor fraction of the former Scourge that under the Lich King grasp(aka Bolvar).
No one knows how powerful the grasp of the LK, we only know whoever controls it(or being controlled) get access to gigantic army covering the whole Nothrend especialy post Cataclysm when Aspects been stripped from their power.
I wonder what happen to the Vyrkul and the rest of the habitats there.

[Serenais]

Alright... This is a tricky issue. I expect the Alliance to just "turn away and forget", as we've been portrayed almost traditionally now.
As to what should be the Alliance's demands for peace treaty, well... Mind you, these are built on the expectations of a REAL LIFE peace treaty demands, not ones raised for the sake of ingame ballance.
1) Immediate withdrawal of Horde forces from Gilneas, Hillsbrad area south of Tarren Mill, Arathi Highlands, The Hinterlands, The Plaguelands from Andorhal eastward (that excludes the Ghostlands, if anyone would be wondering), Swamp of Sorrows, Blasted Lands, Badlands, Twilight Highlands, Vashj'ir and Tol Barad archipelago in Eastern Kingdoms; Ashenvale, Felwood, Darkshore, Southern Barrens (with the exclusion of The Great Gate), Feralas, Azshara, Stonetalon Mountains, Dustwallow Marsh and Desolace in Kalimdor; Borean Tundra, Grizzly Hills, Wintergrasp, Dragonblight and Howling Fjord in Northrend; Jade Forest, Krassarang Wilds, Vale of Eternal Blossoms and Kun-Lai Summit in Pandaria. Civilian populations in specified areas will be placed under Alliance civilian authority (unless specified otherwise below).
2) The Horde will renounce all its territory claims outside of its core territories, defined as: Durotar, Northern Barrens, Mulgore and Echo Isles in Kalimdor; Tirisfal Glades, Silverpine Forest north of Ambermill and Pyrewood Village, Hillsbrad area north of and including Tarren Mill, Plaguelands northwest of Andorhal, Eversong Woods, Ghostlands and Isle of Quel'Danas in Eastern Kingdoms.
3) Creation of temporary occupation zones:
Northern Barrens and Mulgore north of Thunder Bluff, placed under authority of the Night Elven Sentinels;
Durotar north of Razor Hill and south of Orgrimmar, placed under authority of the Kingdom of Stormwind;
Tirisfal Glade outside of Undercity, placed under joint authority of the Kingdom of Stormwind and Kingdom of Ironforge;
Silverpine Forest and Hillsbrad Foothills, placed under authority of the Kingdom of Ironforge;
The Alliance will not include these areas into its immediate territorial claims nor shall it take outside the suzerainty of the speciffic Horde nations after signing of the peace treaty.
3) Dismantling of the Kor'kron forces.
4) Dismantling naval forces of the Horde, with the exception of the Navy of Quel'thalas, which will be reduced to seven ships of combat capability.
5) Discontinuing any weapon programs of belonging to any nation of the Horde and destruction of all facilities and materials used in such programs.
6) Granting independence to the Taunka nation in Northrend.
7) After the end of the occupation of the aformentioned areas by the Alliance, paying reparations to the restored nation of Theramore and other nations of the Alliance to the height of (sum) gold annually for the time span of 75 years.
8) Repatriation of all survivng prisoners of war held by the Horde to their respective nations of the Alliance, providing information about the fate and burial location of the deceased prisoners of war and allowing the Alliance investigation of such in case found necessary by the Alliance, and thus doing without any obstructions to the investigation process.
9) Extradiction of any surviving high ranking members of the Kor'kron forces and civilians associated with to the authority of the Alliance.
10) Extradiction of all "Sunreavers" for investigation of their involvement with the Hellscream regime to the authority of the Alliance.

Mind you, that would NOT be the text of the eventual peace treaty, that would be just what the Alliance would want in order for one to take place. The peace treaty would most likely include the Alliance recognising sovereignity of the Horde over "defined core areas", allow repatriation of Horde civilians into Horde settlements that would afterwards fall under Alliance authority, probably recognising them some special rights, and perhaps also granting no sentence of death for the Sunreavers found guilty in following court processeses, etc.

[Octavius]

Alright... This is a tricky issue. I expect the Alliance to just "turn away and forget", as we've been portrayed almost traditionally now.
As to what should be the Alliance's demands for peace treaty, well... Mind you, these are built on the expectations of a REAL LIFE peace treaty demands, not ones raised for the sake of ingame ballance.
1) Immediate withdrawal of Horde forces from Gilneas, Hillsbrad area south of Tarren Mill, Arathi Highlands, The Hinterlands, The Plaguelands from Andorhal eastward (that excludes the Ghostlands, if anyone would be wondering), Swamp of Sorrows, Blasted Lands, Badlands, Twilight Highlands, Vashj'ir and Tol Barad archipelago in Eastern Kingdoms; Ashenvale, Felwood, Darkshore, Southern Barrens (with the exclusion of The Great Gate), Feralas, Azshara, Stonetalon Mountains, Dustwallow Marsh and Desolace in Kalimdor; Borean Tundra, Grizzly Hills, Wintergrasp, Dragonblight and Howling Fjord in Northrend; Jade Forest, Krassarang Wilds, Vale of Eternal Blossoms and Kun-Lai Summit in Pandaria. Civilian populations in specified areas will be placed under Alliance civilian authority (unless specified otherwise below).
2) The Horde will renounce all its territory claims outside of its core territories, defined as: Durotar, Northern Barrens, Mulgore and Echo Isles in Kalimdor; Tirisfal Glades, Silverpine Forest north of Ambermill and Pyrewood Village, Hillsbrad area north of and including Tarren Mill, Plaguelands northwest of Andorhal, Eversong Woods, Ghostlands and Isle of Quel'Danas in Eastern Kingdoms.
3) Creation of temporary occupation zones:
Northern Barrens and Mulgore north of Thunder Bluff, placed under authority of the Night Elven Sentinels;
Durotar north of Razor Hill and south of Orgrimmar, placed under authority of the Kingdom of Stormwind;
Tirisfal Glade outside of Undercity, placed under joint authority of the Kingdom of Stormwind and Kingdom of Ironforge;
Silverpine Forest and Hillsbrad Foothills, placed under authority of the Kingdom of Ironforge;
The Alliance will not include these areas into its immediate territorial claims nor shall it take outside the suzerainty of the speciffic Horde nations after signing of the peace treaty.
3) Dismantling of the Kor'kron forces.
4) Dismantling naval forces of the Horde, with the exception of the Navy of Quel'thalas, which will be reduced to seven ships of combat capability.
5) Discontinuing any weapon programs of belonging to any nation of the Horde and destruction of all facilities and materials used in such programs.
6) Granting independence to the Taunka nation in Northrend.
7) After the end of the occupation of the aformentioned areas by the Alliance, paying reparations to the restored nation of Theramore and other nations of the Alliance to the height of (sum) gold annually for the time span of 75 years.
8) Repatriation of all survivng prisoners of war held by the Horde to their respective nations of the Alliance, providing information about the fate and burial location of the deceased prisoners of war and allowing the Alliance investigation of such in case found necessary by the Alliance, and thus doing without any obstructions to the investigation process.
9) Extradiction of any surviving high ranking members of the Kor'kron forces and civilians associated with to the authority of the Alliance.
10) Extradiction of all "Sunreavers" for investigation of their involvement with the Hellscream regime to the authority of the Alliance.

Mind you, that would NOT be the text of the eventual peace treaty, that would be just what the Alliance would want in order for one to take place. The peace treaty would most likely include the Alliance recognising sovereignity of the Horde over "defined core areas", allow repatriation of Horde civilians into Horde settlements that would afterwards fall under Alliance authority, probably recognising them some special rights, and perhaps also granting no sentence of death for the Sunreavers found guilty in following court processeses, etc.

In real life, this one could be a realistic treaty signed by the winner side (and I belive it is still an indecisive outcome). BUT no hordy-boy belives that the occupation of their capital, the disgregation of their leadership, the big losses of their prime-race/their elite fighting force and the defeat in Pandaria means they've lost, so you can't absolutely say the alliance can ask any sort of retribution for the war.
If they had to attack stormwind (with alliance help to depose a crazed Varian), surely they would have say: WOOOO A TOTAL VICTORY, YOU ALLIES ARE BEATEN AND KNEELED FOREVER AND EVER!!! LICK OUR FEET NOW! AND GIVE US ALL YOUR TERRITORY EXCEPT ELWYNN! THE N.ELVES COULD LIVE IN VERY VERY LARGE SHIPS IN THE MID OF THE OCEAN!
But we can't say we've won because their arrogance and stupid pride have no limit (obviously I'm not talking to every single player, but to some of them).

[Deleted]

As if the forsaken would honor any treaty.