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  1. #221
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    And something more that u cant earn ingame...

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by skatyer View Post
    Why not? Think if Blizz made available old vanilla, BC, WotLK, Cataclysm achievements (along with their rewards, mounts, titles) through the store, wouldn't you be interested?
    Nope wouldn't worth it, I generally did my achievements either for experiencing the story or out of sheer boredom, except for my glory of the icecrown raider that I've done for my DK to have a proper mount.

  3. #223
    The only way I would ever be okay with this is if they either lower the sub fees or make everything from the store obtainable or tradeable ingame.

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by neanoa View Post
    You are obviously missing the fucking point. It's about a thing called principles.

    All this time we've been paying $15 for a service and continued development of the game. These days we are constantly being told they don't have enough people to do big raids and dungeons - or other things. We've been paying the same price all this time since the start. Now they are slowly giving us less and less in return. They are taking developers (doesn't fucking matter if it's another team that does dungeons or whatnot) to make things that we have to pay money for BESIDE the subscribtion we've payed since start.

    They are taking away creative content away from in-game rewarding and slapping an additional price on it - while leaving the subscribtion fee as it is. You might think it doesn't matter what another person does. But frankly that kind of short-sighted lack of understanding is the reason why this eventually will result in things such as:

    - Buy 200% honor/conquest/justice/valor gain for 24 hours.
    - Buy 6 Mogu charms.
    - Buy this exclusive set of armor that is of better quality and creativity than anything in-game.
    - Buy 50% increase to LFR boss loot for 7 days.

    None of these things DIRECTLY affect you as another player (because of weekly caps etc), but it's still wrong.

    All while they continue to ask $15 - the same price as in Vanilla. It is disgusting double-dipping practice. And I for one will walk away from a game I've played since Launch - if they walk down this path.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too.
    Please elaborate on this point while some of us are choked due to the sheer amount of content contrary to our experiences in TBC/WotLK/Cata.

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Netherspark View Post
    I never said I liked the pet store either. TCG items (mounts and pets at least) can be obtained completely ingame for gold.

    I don't understand how people consider cosmetic things to not be actual "content"..
    If I'm not mistaken, not everything from the TCG is able to be traded, or sold on the AH. You need to buy it with a real world currency and not gold. This has gone on forever, yes? So why is that okay but not an in-game equivalent. I'm sure you'll say it's not but it has been around for a very stupidly long time, way before the implementation of the pet store / mounts.

    It's visual content, yes.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Netherspark View Post
    The only way I would ever be okay with this is if they either lower the sub fees or make everything from the store obtainable or tradeable ingame.
    = P2W

    /darn those 10 chars

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    I was expecting these helmets to be the 'secret' reward after completing the Legendary chain, guess I was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palamanian View Post
    My favourite part is all of the people complaining about this, I really don't get where the hate is coming from. Why do people dislike some of the things so much that have literally no impact on them whatsoever.
    It's the principle of it. Cool looking stuff is part of the reward structure of this game. When you just allow people to buy it with real money ... How is that not "pay to win"? It's like a basketball player paying a $100 to add 10 pts to his team. Play and score baskets? Not necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neanoa View Post
    You are obviously missing the fucking point. It's about a thing called principles.

    All this time we've been paying $15 for a service and continued development of the game. These days we are constantly being told they don't have enough people to do big raids and dungeons - or other things. We've been paying the same price all this time since the start. Now they are slowly giving us less and less in return. They are taking developers (doesn't fucking matter if it's another team that does dungeons or whatnot) to make things that we have to pay money for BESIDE the subscribtion we've payed since start.

    They are taking away creative content away from in-game rewarding and slapping an additional price on it - while leaving the subscribtion fee as it is. You might think it doesn't matter what another person does. But frankly that kind of short-sighted lack of understanding is the reason why this eventually will result in things such as:

    - Buy 200% honor/conquest/justice/valor gain for 24 hours.
    - Buy 6 Mogu charms.
    - Buy this exclusive set of armor that is of better quality and creativity than anything in-game.
    - Buy 25% increase to LFR boss loot.

    None of these things DIRECTLY affect you as another player (because of weekly caps etc), but it's still wrong.

    All while they continue to ask $15 - the same price as in Vanilla. It is disgusting double-dipping practice. And I for one will walk away from a game I've played since Launch - if they walk down this path.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too.
    I see these arguments all over the place, and it's rather puzzling to me. Blizzard doesn't owe you anything, you pay $15.00 each month for whatever content they have to offer, regardless of how great or bad that content is. There are so many games out there, if you don't like this one, find another one that better suits what you want out of a video game. That's the bottom line, you can dress up your argument anyway you like, this game is what it is, if you don't enjoy it, don't pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteboard View Post
    Where's the new PETS from the PET STORE?? D: /collector
    That was my first thought as well. Why do they still call it PET store instead of Blizz store or something?

    Although, as for why there aren't any new pets, it's probably because the Blossoming Ancient is still new.

  11. #231
    they will never do gear with stats on them. why? because everytime they add something what is it pretty much everyone says? "fine as long as its only cosmetic"

    everytime they add something everyone always says "dont care as long as theres no stats" they know we dont care as long as there is no stats and it isnt pay to win, they know what they can and cant do and how the community will react, its not like these fan sites have a blizzard shield and they cant see what they say they have people whos entire job is just to read forum posts and fan sites to see peoples reactions.
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  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by palamanian View Post
    They have some interesting animations, though I don't really see them fitting in with most transmog sets currently in the game. I won't buy them, but I'm sure a lot of people will, and not just the "noobs" as most people seem to be thinking.

    My favourite part is all of the people complaining about this, I really don't get where the hate is coming from. Why do people dislike some of the things so much that have literally no impact on them whatsoever.
    Don't worry, they will be releasing the full set once they gauge people's reactions. Unfortunatly they are going to make a killing from people who can't understand how this is bad for the game.

  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by palamanian View Post
    I see these arguments all over the place, and it's rather puzzling to me. Blizzard doesn't owe you anything, you pay $15.00 each month for whatever content they have to offer, regardless of how great or bad that content is. There are so many games out there, if you don't like this one, find another one that better suits what you want out of a video game. That's the bottom line, you can dress up your argument anyway you like, this game is what it is, if you don't enjoy it, don't pay for it.
    Way to not refute ANYTHING I said. Because you can't. Stop trying to change the subject (me wanting to play or not, because I god damn will quit over this).

  14. #234
    Blizzard seems to be going the f2p cash shop route while maintaining a subscription.

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    Also, I don't see myself buying any of this stuff. The helms don't match any of my current transmogs, and no way am I buying the seesaw or hitching post, or anything that is consumed on use, although I don't think I'd buy the seesaw or hitching post anyways, even if they didn't get consumed. Go after it in-game? Probably. Buy with real money? No.
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  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinChan View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, not everything from the TCG is able to be traded, or sold on the AH. You need to buy it with a real world currency and not gold. This has gone on forever, yes? So why is that okay but not an in-game equivalent. I'm sure you'll say it's not but it has been around for a very stupidly long time, way before the implementation of the pet store / mounts.
    I don't think that's okay either. At least the older non-tradeable TCG items do appear on the Black Market AH, and there's a good chance that newer ones will too in the future.

  17. #237
    It would work better if it didn't take up inventory space to store all that stuff. And I'm not sure people will really buy into the consumable items... but I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerrol View Post
    Don't worry, they will be releasing the full set once they gauge people's reactions. Unfortunatly they are going to make a killing from people who can't understand how this is bad for the game.
    Tier 20 gear will be a jigsaw of rainbow rags put together by the art team while drunk. Want to not look like Elton John? Pay up the wazoo at the Blizzard Store!

  19. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    Also, I don't see myself buying any of this stuff. The helms don't match any of my current transmogs, and no way am I buying something that is consumed on use, although I don't think I'd buy the seesaw or hitching post anyways, even if they didn't get consumed. Go after it in-game? Probably. Buy with real money? No.
    where does it say these are consumed on use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenX View Post
    Then you would easily be categorizing those items in a pay-to-win status. Why?

    You either have to run 10 dungeons to earn it or just pay $10 to get it? How does it sound when put like this?
    Still, there is an option to get the item in-game if you really want to...This would be to run 100 dungeons for example..The purpose of this would be to open another way for the players to acquire the items and if they feel that their pocket can afford it they have the option to pay in order to avoid the hassle.

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