Another retard for the culling.
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Another retard for the culling.
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Last edited by Nicola; 2013-07-21 at 09:58 PM.
Are we talking healing others or self-healing? Because the selfhealing price certainly goes to something else. The healing is ok, but the problem is that shadow doesn't have anything burst-healing, only low sustained with multiple global-costs.
A priest playing defensively is roughly fully shut-down in damage, where as a lot of other classes only pop a cooldown to take less damage, and continue to train my ass. You have to shield, DS, renew, PoM and thats 4 globals, while a ret pops a selfless healer flash of light in 1 global that does the same only with just one global. This is probably not 100% accurate number-wise but it serves as an example of the idea. Burst-healing is way more valuable than sustained healing IMO as well.
The second problem is that shadow is the only class that you can "wear out". Continuous healing usage has its effect on the manabar, unlike no other PvP-spec priests can oom themselves and effectively become useless, and it's not even a hard thing to do. A rule of thumb is if the priest is doing, or has to do flash heal spam, he has already lost because of the mana. This is something people that don't play the class undervalue. It's very painful and boring.
OT: I don't see how it's absolutely necessary for pvp, it can be avoided with buffs in other departments apart from damage. For PvE it's needed, along with a slight single target dmg buff. There's a lot of requests for a glyph that removes the slow on flay and makes it castable while moving. Since flay is the lowest prio, lowest damage go-to spell in the arsenal it's pretty much like Lightning Bolt or Malefic Grasp or Scorch. Many casters have it, so it's not really gamebreaking, but a rather nice PvE buff and quality of life change.
If 2 SP partners can't make him space to put out some preassure then you would lose with them on almost any class.
A SP won the MiR tournament, they're not that bad. It's just that the OP probably only does 2's.
Almost every other class needs their mobility nerfed IMO.
Would be really great if Shadow Priests could at least cast Vampiric Touch while moving, at least. Would be a big pvp buff though, so they probably won't do it
mind flay would just get kicked then. the 33% nerf to pom and renew for shadow not going live would of been better. also mana regen for shadow shouldnt be so reliant on vt. oom'ing a shadow by tunneling shouldnt be a valid strat.
Druids/rets and eles would like a word.
accurate post.
to conclude though i'd be fine with shadow if we werent receiving a 15% dmg reduction nerf. its HUGE.
claiming inner fire buff is valid is silly. I dont care about the white hits. its the yellows that hurt think magic/diseases/specials tht ignore armor). Buffing everyone 10% doesnt compensate
Last edited by stickyjam; 2013-07-23 at 11:07 AM.
Glad that some others who feel the same way have chimed in. Just wish Blizzard would actually listen to their community and stop breaking their own game. There is literally nothing fun to do in WoW any longer, and I'm probably going to un-sub, wait for ESO and then actually enjoy gaming again.
Shadow doesnt need a buff to mobility, so Never! If you want to play a caster with high mobility, play a mage. If you want to play a hybrid caster, with strong defenses and team utility, play Shadow.
Cast many instant spells of varying power while they move around.Spriest/boomy uhm.. boomies can teleport.. shadow can?..
Does no one remember the good old days where casters had to actually cast and didnt get abilities to keep melee off them 24/7... the days before GC.
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Your mobility is me running 500 yards away from you every when you keep me feared for in excess of 14 seconds before real diminishing returns kick in.
Whatever problems Shadow priests have, have nothing to do with Mobility. And Shadow seriously shouldn't see any sort of buff before Disc is nerfed into the ground. Because right now any sort of buff that could in any way trickle into disc, would turn the damn thing into the incarnation of Jesus Christ the Avenger, as the definition of demigod would be insufficient.
I agree you need a bit more mobility.
Maybe making you able to run and cast for the next 2.5 seconds or the next casted/channeled spell after Mind Blasting.
As an Spriest myself , I say giving classes more of what they don't have has been one of the major fubar's of this xpac. Beside, I may not zipping about like a mage on speed but I have more mobility than I had in the past which is all I ever asked for (in fact pre MoP all I ever asked for was a snare which I got or LoL Fiend).