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see, this is where the alliance really love to miss out details to suit there arguments.
The attack on theramore was, at the disgust of Baine and Vol'jin, ordered by Garrosh, as as horde they were oath bound to follow his orders. But, they fought honorably, on the ground hand to hand against the alliance. There was even valid reason, given theramore presence in the barrens for the horde to have honorable combat against theramore and stop more bloodshed being spread across there own lands from the alliance.
But, it was garrosh who used this as a decoy, using the rest of the horde as his decoy to have the mana bomb brought to theramore, which nobody but his kor'kohn, malkorok and the goblins knew about.
The horde who fought hand to hand in theramore were doing so honorably. This is why, if you read the book, you'd know how much of a shock this was to baine and vol'jin for what garrosh did.
Seriously have you even read the book. Are you basing your argument of that shitty little scenario?
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I've read it and I still fail to understand why you pull up this nazi cliche "we were just following orders" bullshit to completely shift accountability.
Regardless of if they didn't know about the bomb, their participation was needed in order for Garrosh to drop the bomb under everyone's noses.
nazi cliche... seriously? Dude, your own us soldiers do the same shit in the middle east under the same orders.
Whatever, you don't want to try on the other shoe, you just want to jump around yelling 'no, horde is bad, horde is bad! *stamps feet*'. God, at least TRY to look over the bloody fence.
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A bit off-topic, but comparing the atrocities committed by U.S soldiers in Afghan to the atrocities committed by Nazi Germany displays a complete ignorance of world history. Please find me the destabilization and genocide of a certain group of people being deliberately done by the U.S Armed forces so I can write my congressmen...
Back to topic: Several of the Horde leaders knew Garrosh was a bad choice, but still followed him anyway. It wasn't until their own interests were being encroached upon that they decided to rebel against him.
Im not suggesting the Horde is completly bad,I am simply stating that the accountability lies on their shoulders. They fucked up big time.
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We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
So if, lets say, Varian was to order the alliance to attack undercity, to 'claim back lordearon', and they fought the forsaken there hand to hand. And then Jaina comes in and nukes the zone, killing all the forsaken there, and leaving a crater where undercity once stood, you'd be fine with that?
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Garrosh went far beyond saying mean things. He
Exiled the trools from the center of Ogrimmar.
Killed the revered tauren leader.
Practiced unethical methods of war
Among other things.
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No. And accountability would be requested via story. Even though I don't think the forsaken deserve any sympathy.
If you don't even have the scrots to answer a hypothetical question as comparison to your own provocation, there's really nothing serious you can give to this debate.
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WoW, choosing to interpret his reasoned answer to your yes/no question as a refusal to your badgering. AND a you-don't-have-the-balls insult. Truly a bold move in this debate. You might have lost some credibility there if the thing hadn't devolved into reductio ad absurdum like twelve pages ago.
OMG 13:37 - Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Cleave unto me, and I shall grant to thee the blessing of eternal salvation."
And His disciples said unto Him, "Can we get Kings instead?"
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