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  1. #61
    Things that are legal today can become illegal tomorrow - but only if the general public (the people) ferociously object and protest such obvious scams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    HSBC pretty clearly engaged in it.
    Banks in Lebanon and other nations were implicated and discovered to have done it too. HSBC, however, is British.

    Even then, it was another case of incompetence rather than actively aiding the terrorist groups. HSBC was also one of the institutions who sat squarely at ground zero of the subprime crisis.

    Frankly I can't think of a better example of Hanlon's Razor.

    Besides all that, they WERE fined $1.9 billion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High Shark View Post
    I can hate the banks for whatever god damn reason I want. and yes, HSBC did it, and I don't restrict my ire to American banks only, buddy boy. and I guess that is cause to I don't know....evaluate these so called safe guards?
    The safeguards weren't the problem. It was the implementation (or lack thereof) that was the problem.

    That said, HSBC and Bank of America were both catastrophically incompetent back in the mid-2000s.

    Frankly I'm not sure how the people at HSBC were able to overlook $800 million in unidentified transactions. If I overdraft my account by a penny, you bet your ass they notice and try to charge me that fee.

    I mean HONESTLY. The most effective safeguard is to just demand a pedigree for the cash that's being transferred when it's over a certain limit. Many banks did this before Congress decided it needed to be a law. Hilariously, as simple as that safeguard is... HSBC STILL found itself coming up short compared to every other bank in the nation.

    How are these morons still in business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    The safeguards weren't the problem. It was the implementation (or lack thereof) that was the problem.

    That said, HSBC and Bank of America were both catastrophically incompetent back in the mid-2000s.

    Frankly I'm not sure how the people at HSBC were able to overlook $800 million in unidentified transactions. If I overdraft my account by a penny, you bet your ass they notice and try to charge me that fee.

    I mean HONESTLY. The most effective safeguard is to just demand a pedigree for the cash that's being transferred when it's over a certain limit. Many banks did this before Congress decided it needed to be a law. Hilariously, as simple as that safeguard is... HSBC STILL found itself coming up short compared to every other bank in the nation.

    How are these morons still in business?
    because they pay the right people. isn't that obvious? and hey I guess millions are a drop in the bucket for international banks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SodiumChloride View Post
    LOL. The pot calling the kettle black here. I think you are missing the point.

    Just because millions of other companies are doing morally bankrupt acts, leaching off society, doesn't mean you should just throw up your arms, give up and allow it.

    What kind of ridiculous logic is this?

    My "parody" is to illustrate just how absurd you position is.
    Alright, Corporate Avenger. Do your thing. Oh, sorry, what's that? Nothing you can do? Well, shit, then the rest of us are in the same boat.

    By the way, there's really nothing you can do to stop a serial killer, either. Like this, you can alert the proper authorities and hope for the best, but unless you're willing to get your hands real dirty, you're shit out of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High Shark View Post
    because they pay the right people. isn't that obvious? and hey I guess millions are a drop in the bucket for international banks.
    Surprisingly, HSBC didn't actually receive bailouts and never went insolvent. Apparently the US subsidiary is staffed by slack-jawed yokels who need constant reminders to breathe, forget about verifying money sources. Meanwhile the non-US operations seem top notch.

    So I'm not really sure who they would have paid/bribed to be kept afloat... since it was never an issue.

    When the US subsidiary cost the company $2 billion in fines, I can guarantee you that heads rolled. I don't know whose but I'm sure the names aren't hard to find.

  8. #68
    don't worry, all will be well as soon as Obama is elected President... oh wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confucius View Post
    don't worry, all will be well as soon as Obama is elected President... oh wait
    4 years ago a random poster on Reddit went off on a diatribe about how America had made a catastrophically bad choice in voting for Obama. He pointed out (100% correctly) that Obama was a younger, blacker version of McCain.

    Oh sure the parties were different, but their stances on key issues as told by their voting records were so similar that they may as well have been John Jackson and Jack Johnson from Futurama.

    Someone dug it up today and it's now on the front page. Read it for yourself. It hasn't been edited (There would be an '*').

    While Americans thought they were voting for Obama instead of McCain, they were simply voting for a Giant Douche instead of the Turd Sandwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    4 years ago a random poster on Reddit went off on a diatribe about how America had made a catastrophically bad choice in voting for Obama. He pointed out (100% correctly) that Obama was a younger, blacker version of McCain.

    Oh sure the parties were different, but their stances on key issues as told by their voting records were so similar that they may as well have been John Jackson and Jack Johnson from Futurama.

    Someone dug it up today and it's now on the front page. Read it for yourself. It hasn't been edited (There would be an '*').

    While Americans thought they were voting for Obama instead of McCain, they were simply voting for a Giant Douche instead of the Turd Sandwich.
    There's always something about the Presidency that turns candidates without a backbone or proper leadership qualities into general crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    There's always something about the Presidency that turns candidates without a backbone or proper leadership qualities into general crap.
    Who would've thought that Obama would have been able to mask his horrible principles better than Romney?

    I can't believe I'm going to say this but it seems that with every new development, Obama is trying to be remembered WORSE than Dubya.

    Hilarious semi-related note. Remember how enhanced protection for whistleblowers was on Obama's campaign platform? Yeah... it's not there anymore.

    Looks like Obama is trying to pull a Beyonce or a Bieber and remove embarassing data from the internet. I don't care who you are, it ain't happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    There's always something about the Presidency that turns candidates without a backbone or proper leadership qualities into general crap.
    Nothing new there, all politicians do that, it's pretty disgusting. We have 2 big parties in Hungary, the socialist party that was in government last time tried increasing higher education tuition fee's that the other big party, the liberals campaigned against, they made it a major part of their campaign to win the parliamentary elections. The liberals get 2/3 majority in the parliament and then implement what they were campaigning against but even worse.
    Now the socialist party is doing the exact same thing as the liberals were before the last elections.

    Politicians just change their stance on issues whenever it suits them the most. You really can only vote for the lesser evil in a lot of countries...

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    In a democracy, the populace has a big say in who is in government, and can throw out their unethical representatives. Remember, a government does not need to turn a profit to stay in business.
    Throwing out unethical representatives isn't going to ensure the new ones are any better despite their track records/promises. Also it's not going to change the government's unethical practices.

    I will say though that we really put too much weight on the Presidency. When push comes to shove Bush was not to blame for the wars besides having to announce it and Obama is not to blame for the NSA bs or anything. Contrary to what we are told, there are higher-ups than the President and they're the ones making these calls and no matter who we elect, it's never going to change any of it.

    /tinfoil hat but I'm being serious.
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    I think the truly sad part, given that this is all true as presented, is that my reaction to it is. "Eh. Pretty much expected such."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    Throwing out unethical representatives isn't going to ensure the new ones are any better despite their track records/promises. Also it's not going to change the government's unethical practices.

    I will say though that we really put too much weight on the Presidency. When push comes to shove Bush was not to blame for the wars besides having to announce it and Obama is not to blame for the NSA bs or anything. Contrary to what we are told, there are higher-ups than the President and they're the ones making these calls and no matter who we elect, it's never going to change any of it.

    /tinfoil hat but I'm being serious.
    Pretty sure that's not how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Alright, Corporate Avenger. Do your thing. Oh, sorry, what's that? Nothing you can do? Well, shit, then the rest of us are in the same boat.

    By the way, there's really nothing you can do to stop a serial killer, either. Like this, you can alert the proper authorities and hope for the best, but unless you're willing to get your hands real dirty, you're shit out of luck.
    Just because there isn't anything you personally can do about, doesn't mean you have to condone it.

    What the heck is the matter with you?

    Your arguments are one non sequitur after another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    Who would've thought that Obama would have been able to mask his horrible principles better than Romney?

    I can't believe I'm going to say this but it seems that with every new development, Obama is trying to be remembered WORSE than Dubya.

    Hilarious semi-related note. Remember how enhanced protection for whistleblowers was on Obama's campaign platform? Yeah... it's not there anymore.

    Looks like Obama is trying to pull a Beyonce or a Bieber and remove embarassing data from the internet. I don't care who you are, it ain't happening.
    He's failing hard, then. Nothing short of tax breaks and starting 2 new wars while plunging the country into recession and debt will make obama worse than bush.

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    I swear people have forgotten why bush was so awful or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    I swear people have forgotten why bush was so awful or something.
    Can hardly blame them They have yet to figure out why Reagan was a bad idea.

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    I swear people have forgotten why bush was so awful or something.
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