If New Hero Class in Nexpac

[Vigilant]

I think it should start 25 levels lower than the current level cap, just like DKs did in Wrath. So, I would've voted for 70 if it were a choice. Went for 75 since it wasn't.

[Kalcheus]

I think it should start 25 levels lower than the current level cap, just like DKs did in Wrath. So, I would've voted for 70 if it were a choice. Went for 75 since it wasn't.

The problem with 70 is that you end up dumping the toon halfway through Northrend once outside of the starting zone. In retrospect, I should've included 80 since that wouldn't have been an issue.

[shanthi]

Agreed. Like I said, I understood why they had to do it for Death Knights to be a class. The problem is that DK players believed that they should be inherently more powerful than other classes because they were playing a "hero class". Once DKs were balanced, their population numbers started to tank.

I think Blizzard found the right idea. Make a hero class "overpowered" early on, but balanced by the time you reach level cap. I haven't played a new DK in years, but the last time I did, even after they were balanced in end game, they definitely felt much more powerful at 60 then other classes. It gave it a nice "hero class" kick but in a way that was pretty inconsequential overall.

[Boogums]

I honestly feel that the hero class concept was one of the worst ideas Blizzard ever came up with. I understand why they did it, but man was it terrible.

How?

/10 char

[Vigilant]

The problem with 70 is that you end up dumping the toon halfway through Northrend once outside of the starting zone. In retrospect, I should've included 80 since that wouldn't have been an issue.

Good call. I just read a previous poster's reasoning for starting at 75, then plopping right into Cata zones, which does seem better.

[Garkanh]

if it is demon hunter, probably 55 like the deathknight, starting area should be defirent depending on race. Nightelfs should start in a phased fellwood, humans in blasted lands, bloodelf Quel'danas (could be great imo, but probably a bad idea, since.. well, dunno for most of the other races.)

but demon hunters should probably play through outland although i would like an higher start level aswell to not have to go though all the pain of outland/northrend/cata content.

[Solzan Nemesis]

I think Demon Hunters should start at 55, just like Death Knights. They can start on a large floating island off the cost of Outland. Level to 58 and then get sent to Hellfire. in-fact that Warlock island that was datamind months ago could be used for such a thing. Blizzard revives Illidan, he goes to the island to recover and then starts training a new age of Demon Hunters. They could use old Lore and say this island is Deathwing's Lair on Draenor. The one form the second war.

I could also come up with 1 expansion early.

DK = 58 going into Outlands
Next Hero class = 85 going into Pandaria

So I would say level 83..

I fixed that for you .

[Daniri]

DK started out blatantly overpowered, and Blizz admitted it was intentional.

I can't find where they admitted that, only the opposite:

"We didn't make DKs intentionally OP. While we want people to purchase Wrath of the Lich King, there are lot of logical flaws with making one class purposely overpowered (such as angering all the players who play the other nine classes)."

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

I can't find where they admitted that, only the opposite:

"We didn't make DKs intentionally OP. While we want people to purchase Wrath of the Lich King, there are lot of logical flaws with making one class purposely overpowered (such as angering all the players who play the other nine classes)."

They said when talking about the Monk not being a hero class that they left the DK a bit on the strong side because they felt it added interest and more of a heroic feel to the class.

[Prancing Minstrel]

The problem with 70 is that you end up dumping the toon halfway through Northrend once outside of the starting zone. In retrospect, I should've included 80 since that wouldn't have been an issue.

I would've gone for either 70 or 80 myself, half way through a continent is just messy. 80 seems a bit high but...I don't want to level another thing through Northrend. Ever.

[Kalcheus]

I would've gone for either 70 or 80 myself, half way through a continent is just messy. 80 seems a bit high but...I don't want to level another thing through Northrend. Ever.

Well, I was basing it on a 5-level intro zone. So if you start at 70, you leave the zone at 75 and go to ... um, Grizzly Hills? Sholazar Basin?
With 80, though, you are done at 85 and go straight to Pandaria, which is why I should've included 80 in the poll, and may redo the poll with better explanation tomorrow.

[zoomgpally]

Title: "If New Hero Class in Nexpac"

Poll: level 1

/facewall

Its called HERO class because it didnt start at level 1

[Kalcheus]

Its called HERO class because it didnt start at level 1

I hear Blizzard can do whatever they want with their game.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

I hear Blizzard can do whatever they want with their game.

Blizz even said the reason Monk isn't a hero class is because it starts at level 1.

[Wyrt]

If they do it again I hope it's 75 and leaves it's starting zone at 78. I hate Northrend so much.

[Xilurm]

Not any of those levels make any sense.

DK's came with Northrend which was 68-80.

The one before that was Outland which was 58-70.

DK's started at 55 and leveled 3 lvls to 58 and then entered Outland.

Assuming there will be a Hero Class in the next Exp and assuming the next Exp is 90-95, then it should be something like this...

Hero Class comes with an Exp that is 90-95.

The one before that is Pandaria which is 85-90.

The Hero Class should then start at 82. Anything more than one continent is way too much and anything less is making it hard to learn your class.

Starting at 65? That's fucking absurd IMO.