Around 500k. I might eat my words, but 5.4 will not be a big upswing like some people are thinking it will be.
Around 500k. I might eat my words, but 5.4 will not be a big upswing like some people are thinking it will be.
China always had a different paying system: pay per minute played with cell phone like payments.
Of course this system is no longer valid, so WoW along with WoW's f2p Hearthstone will be F2P in China. Probably coupled with in game advantages to boost combo play of these games. Everything is already in place over there, INCLUDING the agreement with the Chinese authorities to distribute both games through the same channel.
The west will have a combo play of subscription based WoW along with f2p Hearthstone. Something along the line of "get a WoW subscription" and participate in Arena HS play for x times free per month.
LOTS of combo possibilities with these kind of franchise games, like Hearthstone and the upcoming f2p Blizzard All Stars.
WoW digital franchised games just started and it will promote WoW play for the coming years.
2014 will up WoW play for sure with this marketing and the movie coming.
Actually who would NOT get a WoW subscription of 15 dollars and get to play Hearthstone Arenas and all Heroes in Blizzard's upcoming DOTA game for free for each month they subscribe ...
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Population is no longer a problem with linked realms in patch 5.4
And revenue wise Hearthstone will be a HUGE system with CCG's known money making techniques.
The rest is history and renders these threads rather useless.
Last edited by BenBos; 2013-09-07 at 09:06 AM.
The game is awful empty already, AH hardly has anything in it, only see a handful of players in major cities, maybe see a dozen lines of text in a chat the whole time I am playing. So I think what ever they officially claim double it, because it sure seems like it has been at least double what they have previously claimed.
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Better question, why would anyone?
Because they already rake in almost 1.000 million dollars per year from WOW alone.
So your "assumptions" are countered by dollar signs...
I am sure they will better the 1.4 billion yearly dollars from Blizzard games with the upcoming WOW franchises.
So where does this money come from according to your wet finger ? From Columbian drug deals ?
The patch will bring back some players but it wont bring back more than have quit since July. 5.3 lasted way too long for them to be hoping anything positive. 4 months for such a lackluster patch is just bad. I say they will lose around half a million. And then every quarter after that the numbers will increase, until at the last quarter before the next expansion we will be at 6 million.
imo its going to go down again, that patch has nothing for none raiders (There are alot of us ) , more grinding in a new isle just doesn't tickle my fancy... I'm not going to farm bg's anymore (got 410k hks throughout my 7 years of pvping XD) the pvp is really.. really bad at the moment, 90% of the time more than half the "players" are bots.. and ontop of the glaring unbalance of some classes, the new broken CC system, PVE gear > PVP gear in pvp also rubs me completely in the wrong way. So imo there's nothing more to sub for.. atm im patiently waiting for wildstar (probably wont hold me in the long hall but looks like a great play-through) & for The elder scrolls online.. will i resub to wow again? I dont think so, the reasons i use to play the game are now in complete shambles and i personally dont feel its worth the monthly sub.
New raid content didn't stop subs from bleeding.
At this point, I'd be surprised if subs are neutral or gained in Q3
Your sig is just a plain attack on wow fans. Seriously, if you hate this game, the people that love it and Blizzard in general why are you even here ?. It seems to be the same people who love to predict the sub loss and degrade Blizzard and the wow fan base. It is disgusting and it pisses me off to no end. Why don't you just leave, move past wow if you dislike it. You have to get this, this is a wow based website with wow fans (what a shocker ) so you can't expect die hard fans to not be here. People want to discuss the game they love not have people hating on them because of it. How hard is that to understand, people defend things they care about. I don't know about you but your sig is what is wrong with this community. Degrading. Insulting and pathetic.
Report me for this outburst if you want, I honestly don't care anymore because I have had enough of this crap.
People loved to say how the subs have grown when they did, as I said before subs play a important role.
Why would you go read something that pisses you off
Who said I hated wow? I do not get that logic, if you do not praise it you hate it!
The forum is called World of Warcraft General Discussion, no World of Warcraft must only say positive things about wow Discussion.
No, lots of things are wrong with the community. As for the sig see point 1 Also I personally think taking any criticism towards a game or product as a personal attack is Degrading. Insulting and pathetic.
That's between you and the mods not me
Last edited by But I Hate You All; 2013-09-07 at 07:21 PM.
Why would I type my comment if it was "bullshit", sorry not going to happen. As people have pointed out it is always Jaylock with this crap, then comes the flow of people out of the woodwork who wait with anticipation and excitement as the report comes out about the subs. I'm sick of it.
(don't bother replying as you are on the good ol' ignore list permanently.)
They are releasing the final boss of this expansion, kick some panda ass in the process and shit all over their lore once again. Considering the mood in my guild, or what remains of it, I think the 100-500k option is the most likely. There will be drops but a there will also be a few people that want to stick their weapon of choice in garry's no-sun-shine-place. I doubt we will see a 600k drop once again, that is if the last few weeks of ToT weren't too bad for the sub count. My personal experience is particulary negative in this case, hence I'm not sure how to extrapolate this in a way that would allow me to make a more precise guess.
Because you believe it is true
If you have a issue with a user report or ignore them no reason to call them out
IF you do not want to see it do not click on the thread
Sorry but I don't care if super emotional fans add me to ignore, Also no point of announcing that you are adding someone to ignore.
One can see if the sub loss is affecting you by looking at the activity on your server. The server I am on has already taken a lot of hits during Cata and its now only medium-high, with much fewer fun runs for old content being started
Virtual realms may be too little too late for servers on the brink of population collapse
I hope subs drop to 2-3mils and all crybabies who still play but bullshiting there and there just leave and never return.
Although I enjoy your enthusiasm, Wow hasn't had over 7 million subs since mid/late BC; worldwide, there are 1.2 or so million subs. They only sold 7.5 or so million panda disks, and they have nowhere near 100% retention rate, more like 15%.
Last edited by tenzing21; 2013-09-07 at 08:20 PM.