Originally Posted by
rumaya2000
Started an argument? STARTED AN ARGUMENT? You're not the first player to suggest High Elves for the Alliance and this debate has gone on for literally months.
If you like I'd could give you links to the seven or eight threads, some of them that are quite lengthy, where this subject has been beaten to death.
Trust me when I say every point you've raised has been raised before and countered. And then countered back. And then re-countered. There's been a lot of countering going on.
But I'll give a quick summary of the anti position. Firstly, you at least admit that the two races are the same and that the difference lies solely in the faction. This is not enough to justify adding them as a new race. You may hate the Horde, but I pretty much hate the Alliance too. I sort of like Draenei but I'm not demanding they be added as an option to the Horde.
Adding them to the Alliance weakens the character of the Horde, a something that is unique and popular to the Horde (Belves are the top Horde race) is given to our opposite numbers in the Alliance. Blizzard have just spent the entirety of the Blood Elf storyline in 5.2 cementing them in the Horde. These guys aren't leaving the Horde or going neutral any time soon. And frankly I don't want to share them. They add a dimension to the Horde that would be undermined if they were freely available to the other faction. It's also mildly insulting. You want to play our most popular race, but you don't want to get down with our faction?
I don't want to see the faction wall fall but once you start cheerypicking I say bring the whole edifice down and abolish the Alliance and Horde completely.
New models is a joke. It's a stupid suggestion and I've no nicer way of phrasing it. It's one put forth time and time again by Alliance fans who've never been able to accept a pretty race left the fold and have been desperately trying to think up ways of arguing why High Elves are possible. They say that somehow, miraculously, a political split has led to a physical split as well. That the exact same people ten years ago now look wildly different when compared to each other, so much so that they appear to be physically different races. It's daft, ridiculous, and a suggestion it is one that reeks of desperation and is worthy only of contempt. Next thing you'll be telling me Labour and Conservative voters in England can now be told apart at a distance of thirty meters due to decades of never voting for the other party.
And how do the High Elves outnumber the trolls and the gnomes? Let me guess, you've been looking at the Warcraft RPG figures. Those figures are bunk. Blizzard declared the RPG non-canon, so while they may raid it for ideas, population numbers in game definitely do not reflect those figures. Take the Gnomes and the Trolls for example. You say the High Elves outnumber them. My friend, I am sorry to disabuse you of this mistaken notion.
The nearly 'extinct' Darkspear have been able to maintain settlements in Orgrimmar, their racial capital in the Echo Isles, Sen'Jin Village, Shadowprey Village in Desolace, Malaka'jin in stonetalon mountains, zoram'gar outpost in ashenvale as well as two bases in zangarmarsh in outland.
The nearly 'extinct' Gnomes have been able to maintain settlements in Tinkertown, New Tinkertown, Toshley's station in Outland and Fizzcrank Airstrip in Northrend.
The High Elves maintain a single lodge somewhere in the Eastern Kingdoms as the sum total of their holdings.
The majority of what remains of the High Elves are in the Dalaran aligned Silver Covenant, which is the only place they appear in any sort of numbers.
High Tinker Mekkatorque is also included in high level Alliance meetings, such as the gathering that took place prior to the Cataclysm or the meeting in Dalaran inducting the Worgen into the Alliance. The High Elves were not afforded such representation, as they are no longer a major part of the Alliance. They are no longer a major part of the Alliance because the majority renamed themselves and switched sides to the Horde. Blizzard never said that the Gnomes and Trolls weren't low on numbers. What they said was that the High Elves ARE so low on numbers compared to other near extinct races that they couldn't really function as a player race. That is how bad they are. And don't say 'all the Goblins escaped from Kezan on one ship', that is the usual response.
Clearly Gallywix evacuated a substantial portion in his entire fleet, you just happened to get out on the ship he was on and that was the one that got lost, which is the only explanation. Because Gallywix has mentioned his fleet before, and the idea that many Goblins got off on one ship is clearly risible. The Goblins have bases all over the place. You know who doesn't have bases all over the place except for one hovel in the eastern kingdoms? The nearly dead High Elves.
And what niche would the High Elves hold in the Alliance? Elf race? Nope, covered by the Night Elves. Pretty Race? Night Elves, Draenei, Humans. Magical race? Draenei and Gnomes. No reason to add this nearly dead race to satisfy a very small vocal minority and instead invoke from a majority a collective 'wtf? blizz just allowed alliance players to elves? more elves? blizz out of ideas!'.
That's a very brief summary of everything that is wrong with your ideas. But if you wish to take it further, you should check back from some older posts. The arguments in some lasted for days and days.
If you REALLY want to play an Elf, swallow the anti Horde stuff and play a Belf. If you can't swallow the anti Horde stuff, I am sure there are seven options blue side who can meet your needs.