They have a thread for this in the Raids topic and it is already quite long addressing and debating this exact topic.
They have a thread for this in the Raids topic and it is already quite long addressing and debating this exact topic.
Asia is no longer part of the (playerbase invented) "World first race", as they do not abide by the accepted rules anymore.
Ah Ty, all the more reason to not register kills as world first otherwise you get this illogical shit storm. Doing it by region is the best answer IMO moving forward.
Same for 10/25 divide have them all on separate tracking and just announce the 1st kills for each region and each 10/25
It would make for a more interesting Olympics if they did.. Anyway that would not be the Olympics it would have a different name with different rules. What is being raid here is World of Warcraft is different in china to the EU/US but it's still being labeled the exact same.
The race was World first world of warcraft EU/US heroic kill not a world first world of warcraft heroic kill.
To be exact you should have:
World First EU 10
World First EU 25
World First US 10
World First US 25
World First Chinese/Asia 25
World First Chinese/Asia 10
Or as a minimum:
World First US/EU
World First Chinese/Asia
Or Even.
World First US/EU 10
World First US/EU 25
World First Chinese/Asia 10
World First Chinese/Asia 25
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No seriously, since the OP is so hot on the topic, please OP answer my question >
How is it fair to everyone else, for one side in the race to have a big advantage over everyone else and then claim to be the winner?
Ion:
Bosses have increased health pools, so besides the double lockout it should be more or less equivalent.in theory doing 25 player with 25 player loot in Asia should be the same as doing 25 with 25 loot in Europe/US.
I guess ocidentals are butthurt because orientals win in any sort of competitive game. It's like "meh, they are Chinese, I can't compete".
Asians have it easier because of double lockouts, yes.
Still, world first is world first. It has no relevance anymore.
People need to start talking about EU/US first to eliminate the confusion.
It's like saying Usain Bolt isn't eligible for World's fastest runner. He has the unfair advantage of being a man. Only women should be included in the world's fastest running competition. Seriously, there is the world's fastest man and the world's fastest woman, that's all. If you ask who is the fastest human in the world, then Usain Bolt is. Stars got World First, that's all.
Just think of their client as a completely different game, it'd be like if some other MMO had a boss that was incredibly easy to kill, named the same thing as a wow boss. Does that mean whoever killed it first should get the "World First" kill title?Then should the kills not be labeled "WORLD FIRST (EU/US CLIENT)" Or something i still do not see the logic.. FIRST means to kill something first and WORLD means everyone.
They both fit into the WORLD and FIRST criteria regardless of difficulty.
As others have stated, they have a massive advantage over the rest of the world, and their item level was 573+ when they killed it, compared to Method's 565(source: look at MMO-Champion Published on 2013-09-29 08:54 PM).
It's not discrimination in any sense of the word, they just have such a huge advantage over the rest of the world it's stupid to compare the two.
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They geared up in 25 man, then killed it on 10 man. Your argument is invalid.Bosses have increased health pools, so besides the double lockout it should be more or less equivalent.
I guess ocidentals are butthurt because orientals win in any sort of competitive game. It's like "meh, they are Chinese, I can't compete".
They have different advantages that others don't. Separate lockouts = more gear = easier kill.
People will have their own opinions on this, mine is that they had an advantage that others didn't and to me that takes them out of the race.
Not to discredit their skill or dedication in the matter, because what they did is still impressive, but Method did it with less. Without the separate lockout advantage, I don't believe that guild would have gotten there first.
This Asian guild for world first 10 man, Method got world first 25 man. The end.
No, the wording is not wrong, US and EU still play the same game with the same rules (more or less) hence they still are int the player invented "World First Race". Asia has a lot more differences in WoW, hence they are not included in the said race. How is that so difficult to understand? There is no need to separate US and EU, since everything is the same (save the timezone).
You see, that is what you don´t understand. YES.. the bosses on 25M have more health and do more damage.. and they give higher ilvl loot. But the world first kill was done on 10M using the loot from 25M. The 10M does NOT have higher health and hps.
In EU and USA, Heroic Garrosh is the most difficult encounter. The guild from China did NOT kill the hardest boss they have, which is 25M with the higher health and damage to compensate for the higher ilvl gear.
i'm curious as to when, like yourself, the naysayers are going to take all the hard facts and evidence to prove that they don't belong in the world first race?
seriously, i'm fucking completely dumbfounded curious.
there has been multiple threads with the same thing being posted over and over. as includes this one. fucking fuck people! stop ignoring the facts as to why they don't belong in the "world first" race.
at all. nothing more to see here. the train has reached its designated destination.