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    When does BA snapshot?

    Does BA snapshot when you cast it or when it hits the boss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by friedrice821 View Post
    Does BA snapshot when you cast it or when it hits the boss?
    90% sure that it snapshots when it hits the boss. I could be wrong.

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    I did a quick test on the dummy with my on-use engineering glove perk done at 40yd (for maximum travel time) and no proc items, one with BA fired at 0.5s (to see if on cast) and another with perk popped after firing out BA (to see if on hit). It seems to be calculated on cast since the latter yields the same result as my un-perked BA (15.8k vs. 16.8k). I may be wrong, it's late!

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    AFAIK, all hunter shots are calculated on cast, except for Glaive Toss, which is calculated on hit.

    I might be wrong, but I don't think I am.

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    Ain't BA a dynamic DoT much like aMoC is? So it'll update dmg on every tick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesiz View Post
    Ain't BA a dynamic DoT much like aMoC is? So it'll update dmg on every tick.
    Nope, hence why you sometimes should clip it slightly earlier in the opener to snapshot the AoC trinket.

    OT: Black arrow updates when cast, not when it hits.
    Last edited by mmoc4dc38131fe; 2014-01-03 at 05:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesiz View Post
    Ain't BA a dynamic DoT much like aMoC is? So it'll update dmg on every tick.
    This is false, but for a long time BA's damage has been so meaningless in comparison to its ability to proc LnL that no one was really concerned with "gaming" it to maximize its damage, especially since it had a longer CD than its duration. With the rise of AoC and CD reduction, that's changed a bit.

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    The moment it leaves your bow/gun is when damage is calculated for all but Glaive Toss, which is calculated when it hits.

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    BA snapshots on cast. A lot of people in this thread are thinking of SS, which snapshots on hit.

    source: try it on a dummy

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercylolk View Post
    BA snapshots on cast. A lot of people in this thread are thinking of SS, which snapshots on hit.

    source: try it on a dummy
    I tried this on a dummy with my synapse again and I'm inclined to believe it's on hit like BA. I shot out my SrS when my synapse had ~0.5s on it at 40yd range and resulted in SrS tick equal to my SrS with nothing used. Just to make sure I then did another test with synapse used whilst SrS in midair and it ticked with the modified damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timoseewho View Post
    I tried this on a dummy with my synapse again and I'm inclined to believe it's on hit like BA. I shot out my SrS when my synapse had ~0.5s on it at 40yd range and resulted in SrS tick equal to my SrS with nothing used. Just to make sure I then did another test with synapse used whilst SrS in midair and it ticked with the modified damage.

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    BA isn't on hit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyful View Post
    BA isn't on hit...
    Oops ya, I botched that, BA is on cast (I even said that in my first post lol) and SrS on hit. mercylolk is correct!
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