Reason's behind disgust at 60$ for level 90 chars

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No one "has" to do anything. We are all given the same options, and the same advantages. Some of us see the value and choose to take it. Others are just too "frugle" and would rather bitch about the price and other great topics like why hunters don't use mana anymore. Why are you so threatened by the fact that every person who plays WoW can purchase a lvl 90 boost and then grind to 100 at THE SAME TIME? They are not going to beat you for world first. If they do, then they are a better player. They still have to go back and level professions, raise rep, and explore for flight paths (unless they give them out like Death Knights).

Maybe you should spend less time worrying about someone who wants to pay for an OPTIONAL SERVICE and more time trying to figure out what is really bothering you. It's ok if you are poor... I get it. I was poor 20 years ago. Lived in a studio apartment. Drove a chevy (15 years old). Ate Ramen noodles. Stayed home and watched movies. Made $12 a hour. Now, I don't have those issues and will gladly pay to skip 40 hours of BULLSHIT so I can get on to the current content.

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Could not have said it better myself. The option would have still been there. This just streamlines it.

That's the point, all of of sudden we don't all have the same options. This is not an option for some people be it due to lack of money or not being an idiot. It may be optional, but it shouldn't exist or it should be free. Outside wealth should not effect in game functions.

[-Superman-]

I Have an idea... How about making the leveling less painful instead of sticking a price tag on it?

Oh.. it doesn't get you 60 dollars? Nevermind then.

You could change the content every 5 minutes... some of us are just TIRED OF THE GRIND.

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That's the point, all of of sudden we don't all have the same options. This is not an option for some people be it due to lack of money or not being an idiot. It may be optional, but it shouldn't exist or it should be free. Outside wealth should not effect in game functions.

I would enjoy it just once if you could formulate a rebuttal without an insult. Outside wealth changes nothing except the starting line. 7M other players already have a lvl 90 toon (or more). So people getting their free ones with WoD will add to that pool when it comes time to grind to 100. Now, here's the best part...

Everyone who buys the expac will get a 90. No one is at a disadvantage.

If you want ANOTHER one after that, then you have to pay for it. So... since we have now established everyone is getting a 90... for free... would you like to give me a valid argument, or would you rather continue INSULTING those of us who are not income challenged?

[Marema]

That's the point, all of of sudden we don't all have the same options. This is not an option for some people be it due to lack of money or not being an idiot. It may be optional, but it shouldn't exist or it should be free. Outside wealth should not effect in game functions.

We all don't have the same options in life either. Give me a break. People have used leveling boosts since RaF and SoR have been out and those seem to be fine.

[Randec]

Why is the price too high now, instead of people complaining about the $85 it would have cost to buy a 90 when you would have had to buy extra WoD copies?

Because a great many consumers feel that it's too much money to pay, and that it's not worth that much money.

Look. Let's say I'm selling you a padlock and a key. Both for one hundred dollars.

"That's too much!", you might rightly say.

"Well," I'd reply, "Your other option is to buy the lock for two hundred, and the key for 300, so as you can see this is plainly a better deal."

It makes no sense from a logical perspective. The fact that you're offering the goods and or service for more money under different circumstances doesn't make the deal more enticing.

If you want ANOTHER one after that, then you have to pay for it. So... since we have now established everyone is getting a 90... for free... would you like to give me a valid argument, or would you rather continue INSULTING those of us who are not income challenged?

Don't you see? Insinuating that he's "income challenged" because he's not willing to pay as much for something as you are is insulting AND illogical. And your giant red text is obnoxious. Rage less.

[Belize]

Honestly think people are just mad they can't afford it. Sucks for them.

They were mad that it was being implemented now they're mad it's not cheap. You know, I hate people. Always mad.

[Daetur]

Because a great many consumers feel that it's too much money to pay, and that it's not worth that much money.

Look. Let's say I'm selling you a padlock and a key. Both for one hundred dollars.

"That's too much!", you might rightly say.

"Well," I'd reply, "Your other option is to buy the lock for two hundred, and the key for 300, so as you can see this is plainly a better deal."

It makes no sense from a logical perspective. The fact that you're offering the good and or service for more money under different circumstances doesn't make the deal more enticing.

Is there another competitor offering the same lock and key for a lower price?

If not... then it is a better deal, regardless of whether or not I personally feel like having that lock and key is worth it.

[Giscoicus]

This is the REAL reason. People hate the content so much, they powerlevel through DUNGEONS. Those of us who hate the content AND power leveling in dungeons want this boost. No more needing Heirlooms of everykind. People who want to save their $$ can continue to do it the regular way. Those of us who despise the regular way will vote with our wallets.

News flash: Power leveling in dungeons is a way to AVOID THE CONTENT of questing

How does that mean people hate the content? Dungeons are simply more efficient, and let players play their class/spec realistically rather than being unable to get 2 abilities off without killing something.

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We all don't have the same options in life either. Give me a break. People have used leveling boosts since RaF and SoR have been out and those seem to be fine.

Exactly, we don't all have the same options in real life. One of the reason people play games that offer alternate lives. Everyone is equal.

[Rumblecrush]

From here on out every leveling zone is going to look like gorgrond so you'll be tempted to buy past it

[Randec]

Is there another competitor offering the same lock and key for a lower price?

If not... then it is a better deal, regardless of whether or not I personally feel like having that lock and key is worth it.

OK, it's a better deal. Not a good deal. And it's still too expensive for a lock and key.

[-Superman-]

How does that mean people hate the content? Dungeons are simply more efficient, and let players play their class/spec realistically rather than being unable to get 2 abilities off without killing something.

You just said it. Dungeon leveling is more efficient. It also provides better loot/rewards. It gives more achieves. I keeps the player from having to fight for resources while questing (i.e. - murlocs in Westfall or Kobolds in Elwynn Forest). Everyone knows the current questing content is both inefficient and overcrowded. And, for some of us, boring as shit.

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You could change the content every 5 minutes... some of us are just TIRED OF THE GRIND.

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I would enjoy it just once if you could formulate a rebuttal without an insult. Outside wealth changes nothing except the starting line. 7M other players already have a lvl 90 toon (or more). So people getting their free ones with WoD will add to that pool when it comes time to grind to 100. Now, here's the best part...

Everyone who buys the expac will get a 90. No one is at a disadvantage.

If you want ANOTHER one after that, then you have to pay for it. So... since we have now established everyone is getting a 90... for free... would you like to give me a valid argument, or would you rather continue INSULTING those of us who are not income challenged?

You cannot sell something if it doesn't give an advantage. People may well get one with the expansion but I suspect that will be limited to pre orders. The valid argument is that outside wealth should never affect the experience in game.

[Mermaid]

The purpose of this thread is to help understand why some people are crying out about this (possible) number for the cost. I personally think it is a reasonable price for the amount of content that you are skipping.

That's just it. You're encouraged to pay full price of a brand new game to skip content. THAT'S INSANE.

I have a problem with the fact that blizzard would rather people pay them 60 dollars to skip content, rather than them actually making leveling interesting by refreshing it every once in a while. Non-sub based games like guild wars allows you to play at max level, for free if you don't want to level up. Guild wars 2 keeps all content relative by scaling your character to the zone you're in, also allows you to play at max level for pvp if you so wish. Instead of adding something like that to wow, blizzard would rather just cash grab by exploiting peoples boredom with a 10 year old game. It's disgusting.

[Randec]

That's just it. You're encouraged to pay full price of a brand new game to skip content. THAT'S INSANE.

I have a problem with the fact that blizzard would rather people pay them 60 dollars to skip content, rather than them actually making leveling interesting by refreshing it every once in a while. Non-sub based games like guild wars allows you to play at max level, for free if you don't want to level up. Guild wars 2 keeps all content relative by scaling your character to the zone you're in, also allows you to play at max level for pvp if you so wish. Instead of adding something like that to wow, blizzard would rather just cash grab by exploiting peoples boredom with a 10 year old game. It's disgusting.

Right. If a large part of your game is really REALLY not fun anymore (which most people agree), you change it in an expansion. You don't charge people not to play it.

[pateuvasiliu]

60$ is just fine.

[Giscoicus]

You cannot sell something if it doesn't give an advantage. People may well get one with the expansion but I suspect that will be limited to pre orders. The valid argument is that outside wealth should never affect the experience in game.

But whats the alternative? Blizzard actually make skill affect in game experience?

[Rumblecrush]

The boost comes with a full set of gear doesnt it? Where's all the people who said they'd quit when blizzard sold gear. I want to see the backpedaling and goalpost moving

[-Superman-]

Exactly, we don't all have the same options in real life. One of the reason people play games that offer alternate lives. Everyone is equal.

People will NEVER be equal in real life or in video games. You want some type of socialist setting where everyone should have the exact same circumstance. NEWS FLASH: Will never happen. Prime example... NASCAR.

Every car has to be exact, and be under a specific quality. This insures a fair race. But, the mechanics and engineers on the team find ways to streamline the airflow, make the tires last longer, make the gas go further, and ultimately win the race. But, according to the vehicle inspection and specifications, the are all using the same car, with the same motor, and the same type of tires.

Nothing in this world is fair, and I will not feel guilty about paying for an optional service that someone else can't afford. It is not my personal responsibility to make sure everyone has an extra $60 that month just to pay for an optional service.

[Infernix]

You just said it. Dungeon leveling is more efficient. It also provides better loot/rewards. It gives more achieves. I keeps the player from having to fight for resources while questing (i.e. - murlocs in Westfall or Kobolds in Elwynn Forest). Everyone knows the current questing content is both inefficient and overcrowded. And, for some of us, boring as shit.

exactly. This is why we also need Starter sets of Raiding gear.

Let's be honest, grinding for a starter set to get into Raiding is boring and terrible. I don't have the time or the patience for all that. I want to raid and I'm willing to pay to skip all that stupid grinding and get into Raiding.

So make it happen, Blizzard! We want Starter sets for Raiders! You offer it, I'll be the first to buy it!

[Giscoicus]

The boost comes with a full set of gear doesnt it? Where's all the people who said they'd quit when blizzard sold gear. I want to see the backpedaling and goalpost moving

The goalpost moving happened a long time ago when people insist that a max level somehow isnt an advantage, but isnt cosmetic.

"Blizzard will only sell cosmetic gear, never things that impact gameplay"-False
"Blizzard will never sell max level characters"-False
"Blizzard will never sell gear"-TBD