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    I'd say the way Japan and South Korea turned out, in large part thanks to the US, are at least a counter to what we've done in the ME.... if anything it's kind of telling to the difference between countries for and against us.
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    This is Asia:

    It includes all those countries.
    The problem is that "Asia" is a cultural region more than a geographical region. A "continent" in geologists terms is a large landmass connected by a continental shelf. Under this definition, there are only 4 main continents: America, Afroeurasia, Australia and Antarctica. I'll throw in Zealandia for shits.

    "(South)west Asia" as it is occasionally called is culturally distinct from "Central Asia", "North Asia", "South Asia", "Southeast Asia" and "East Asia".

    If you want to talk about Plate tectonics, then the Arabian plate only recently (geological time here) separated from Africa, so that's what I would consider it a part of.

    But yes, technically, Israel and Syria could be considered a part of Asia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus1986 View Post
    You said Asia... None of the countries you're talking about are in Asia
    Oh Jesus Christ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Granted, and I think we should stop supporting Israel.



    We're not at fault there.


    Granted.



    Our involvement in overthrowing their government is not the cause of their current predicament.



    Not at all blind, and they'd behave that way regardless of our involvement. We didn't start that fire.



    Their troubles there hardly started with us.



    How is Pakistan's issues our fault?



    Those groups were formed in response to the Russian invasion. The US supported their fight against Russia, but Russia created them, not us.




    Yeah, the Iraq situation is fucked up, and I blame Bush and company for that. Syria is on Assad, though, not the United States.

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    The US did not create the Thai government, but they seem to be running the country OK.

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    All of those countries are in Asia.
    Syria: well, the rebels have been given support since the beginning. An internal war supposed to last 3 months lasting 3 years?

    Iran: oh hell yeah It absolutely is. This is what you get when you mess with internal politics so much. Iran before the coup was well ahead of its time.

    Saudi arabia: yes, absolutely blind. You're after selling 16 BILLIONS of weapons to a country run by sultans. Saudi Arabia, like Israel, is a perfect example of how NOT to carry out foreign policies, and Saudi Arabia, like Israel, will be a problem in the future for the international community. Like Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. (Mind you I'm keeping to Asia, I won't mention Libya and Egypt and well, the rest of the world).

    Afganistan: well, rebels were brewed and trained specifically to fight Russia in Afghanistan. Whatever skro says, they didn't magically transform into the talibans all of a sudden. This is exactly what happens when you fuck around the globe at random.

    Pakistan: well that's where the "taliban" came from. Military government kept in place for how long... 30 years? 40 years? A nuclear power used as a terrorist breeding ground for a decade and look... now its in a mess. How surprising.

    Sorry for the lengthy post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    I'd say the way Japan and South Korea turned out, in large part thanks to the US, are at least a counter to what we've done in the ME.... if anything it's kind of telling to the difference between countries for and against us.
    You mean... nuking a country and dividing another?

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    Djalil, just stop talking about Korea and Japan. It's more than obvious by now that you have no clue what you're blabbing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    Oh Jesus Christ...

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    Syria: well, the rebels have been given support since the beginning. An internal war supposed to last 3 months lasting 3 years?

    Iran: oh hell yeah It absolutely is. This is what you get when you mess with internal politics so much. Iran before the coup was well ahead of its time.

    Saudi arabia: yes, absolutely blind. You're after selling 16 BILLIONS of weapons to a country run by sultans. Saudi Arabia, like Israel, is a perfect example of how NOT to carry out foreign policies, and Saudi Arabia, like Israel, will be a problem in the future for the international community. Like Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. (Mind you I'm keeping to Asia, I won't mention Libya and Egypt and well, the rest of the world).

    Afganistan: well, rebels were brewed and trained specifically to fight Russia in Afghanistan. Whatever skro says, they didn't magically transform into the talibans all of a sudden. This is exactly what happens when you fuck around the globe at random.

    Pakistan: well that's where the "taliban" came from. Military government kept in place for how long... 30 years? 40 years? A nuclear power used as a terrorist breeding ground for a decade and look... now its in a mess. How surprising.

    Sorry for the lengthy post.

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    You mean... nuking a country and dividing another?
    The Koreas were divided before the war, also South Korea and Japan are 2 of the most advanced nations on the planet. The North/South divide on the Korean peninsula is pretty obvious for instance.
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus1986 View Post
    Djalil, just stop talking about Korea and Japan. It's more than obvious by now that you have no clue what you're blabbing about.
    This coming from the one who doesn't know geography?
    You'll have to do a lot better kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    The Koreas were divided before the war, also South Korea and Japan are 2 of the most advanced nations on the planet. The North/South divide on the Korean peninsula is pretty obvious for instance.
    Not by their own will mind you.

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    Funny detail: south korea looks a lot like Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    This coming from the one who doesn't know geography?
    You'll have to do a lot better kid.

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    Not by their own will mind you.

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    Funny detail: south korea looks a lot like Ireland.
    Ya I'm sure South Korea hates having a high living standard, electricity and food.
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Ya I'm sure South Korea hates having a high living standard, electricity and food.
    And a nuclear madman a few miles away.

    Yes I'm pretty sure having an ancient country divided due to foreign power decision doesn't feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    And a nuclear madman a few miles away.

    Yes I'm pretty sure having an ancient country divided due to foreign power decision doesn't feel good.
    Well would you rather have a nuclear madman as your leader or your neighbor.... and by leader I mean the guy who put you in a concentration camp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    This coming from the one who doesn't know geography?
    You'll have to do a lot better kid.

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    Not by their own will mind you.

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    Funny detail: south korea looks a lot like Ireland.
    Israel and Palestine, as well as Iran and Saudia Arabia aren't in Asia. Unless you're using terms from antiquity, then you might have an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus1986 View Post
    Israel and Palestine, as well as Iran and Saudia Arabia aren't in Asia. Unless you're using terms from antiquity, then you might have an argument.
    I believe they are using the commonly accepted terms for those areas.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Israel and Palestine, as well as Iran and Saudia Arabia aren't in Asia. Unless you're using terms from antiquity, then you might have an argument.
    What the fuck are you talking about. Jesus Christ open a book. Google it. Do something, just read it up till you learn about it, THEN come back.
    god almighty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus1986 View Post
    Israel and Palestine, as well as Iran and Saudia Arabia aren't in Asia. Unless you're using terms from antiquity, then you might have an argument.
    One of the few times I agree with Djalil, they are located in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    What the fuck are you talking about. Jesus Christ open a book. Google it. Do something, just read it up till you learn about it, THEN come back.
    god almighty.
    But there are many parts of the world where it really is not considered part of Asia. You're either being deliberately obtuse or vitriol is your default setting.
    Call me Cassandra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    And a nuclear madman a few miles away.

    Yes I'm pretty sure having an ancient country divided due to foreign power decision doesn't feel good.
    lol

    Are you trying to argue that it'd have been better to allow North Korea and China to "unite" the entirety of the Korean peninsula? Even after seeing what the Kim's have done to North Korea, you'd still argue that?

    I'm sure the people in South Korea would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    What the fuck are you talking about. Jesus Christ open a book. Google it. Do something, just read it up till you learn about it, THEN come back.
    god almighty.
    Must be regional differences then. I, and I'm sure many others as well, have never considered any of those countries I mentioned as part of Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notchris View Post
    lol

    Are you trying to argue that it'd have been better to allow North Korea and China to "unite" the entirety of the Korean peninsula? Even after seeing what the Kim's have done to North Korea, you'd still argue that?

    I'm sure the people in South Korea would agree.
    He's also deliberately ignoring that it was Stalin who occupied the Northern end of the peninsula after Japan's official surrender, which provoked America to take action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyael View Post
    But there are many parts of the world where it really is not considered part of Asia. You're either being deliberately obtuse or vitriol is your default setting.
    I honestly thought he was just calling them parts of Asia as part of his "America screws things up" rant. Which kind of falls flat when you look at Japan and South Korea. This isn't even counting all the European countries the US rebuilt under the Marshall plan

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    Nk was better than Sk for big amount of time. Its synced with US outsourcing jobs to cheap fabrics and socialist economies delinked in 1980s.
    Japan is not good from socialist point of view. Making workers like slaves - omg its capitalist paradise!!!11
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    Japan...makes workers....like slaves. Haha WHAT?!?

    You're talking about one of the most technologically advanced countries on the planet.

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