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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthas242 View Post
    There will never be a demon hunter CLASS

    with the incoming demo revamp for 7.0 *because blizzard doesn't like how it plays*

    they will never take meta away as it's to much part of the warlock class now *and two classes with meta would be stupid*

    the most likely outcome is Demo gets split into two specs like FERAL DRUIDS DID.

    one focused on demon summoning/empowering minions *Demonolgy base don Gul'dan*

    The other one Meta/self empowerment *Demon Hunter based on Illidan* AS A TANK SPEC.
    *as many warlocks want warlock tanking back*
    Illidan also was in a sense a cloth wearer, As he worn only pants and and blindfold, he was a better magic user then ever a physical fighter *in books/lore* maybe not so much in games like HotS

    this solves many and all problems, it's easier to *split*make a spec then a new class.
    It add demon hunters
    It gives warlocks tanking back that was added in Mist *even though it got nerfed at release but was still viable in many situations*
    IT MIGHT also solve the lack of tanks problem because everyone and there mother wanting to be a Demon Hunter *although i wouldn't be surprised if they added a talent like Warriors Gladitators resolve*

    It also fits lore as KANRETHAD was obessed with Illidans powers and wanted to learn to control them himself *and he was a warlock*. The questline it self also hinted at Illidan being Alive. So it would not be out of reach Illidan returns to train a new set of demon hunters from THE BLACK HARVEST, which does comprise of horde and alliance warlocks, so it is easy to explain why both factions get .

    This would also allow to open up Night Elf Warlocks
    *maybe even draenei cause we had a expansion full of them and i want to be one of these two*
    You know, when Demon Hunters get announced (doesn't have to be the next exp), you'll be the first person I reply to saying "told you so".

  2. #22
    Demo geta its own minion yet the focus is on meta.
    Wtf
    Meta must go
    Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
    Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
    Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
    Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
    Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
    Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper View Post
    Honestly I've always considered the Felguard the spec-defining ability for Demo locks. They are, after all, supposed to be the pet-focused spec for warlocks, like Beast Mastery is for Hunters. Meta has always just felt like either a DPS cooldown, or an extra button you have to hit when you want to cast Hand of Gul'dan.
    Mechanically, all the Demon stuff was always (and still is mostly) entirely passive. Meta was the active aspect of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    Demo geta its own minion yet the focus is on meta.
    Wtf
    Meta must go
    yep. go read my nice post about my redesign of it.

    ot:
    Carbot has 2 videos coming out will illidan being the focus.

    first is a heroes of the storm one



    second is actually in the "preview"
    https://youtu.be/ygfK5BdECnE?t=1m19s

    coincidence? Maybe. But I think not

    /tinfoil hat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skayth View Post
    yep. go read my nice post about my redesign of it.

    ot:
    Carbot has 2 videos coming out will illidan being the focus.

    first is a heroes of the storm one



    second is actually in the "preview"
    https://youtu.be/ygfK5BdECnE?t=1m19s

    coincidence? Maybe. But I think not

    /tinfoil hat
    You think they'd be privy to anything in order to produce this? Or, more likely just riding the pre-expansion hype and "leaks" involving the wishful thinking of a return of Illidan and implementation of Demon Hunters that happens every expansion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    Demo geta its own minion yet the focus is on meta.
    Wtf
    Meta must go
    Of course its players who don't use the class or spec who want it shat on. There are more of those than those who do, so yeah, that's why I can see it happening.

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    Because God forbid two classes would share an ability. Some of you have like no imagination....so God damn conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    You think they'd be privy to anything in order to produce this? Or, more likely just riding the pre-expansion hype and "leaks" involving the wishful thinking of a return of Illidan and implementation of Demon Hunters that happens every expansion?
    Yes, yes I do actually. He made the Heroes of the storm one before heroes of the storm was released, and was still being called dota 2. it was released at blizzcon in the heroes panel. Im just saying...



    Of course its players who don't use the class or spec who want it shat on. There are more of those than those who do, so yeah, that's why I can see it happening.
    =) I do too, and I main demonology. Most others simply want it transformed into demon hunter bullshit, which I find... bullshit.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    You think they'd be privy to anything in order to produce this? Or, more likely just riding the pre-expansion hype and "leaks" involving the wishful thinking of a return of Illidan and implementation of Demon Hunters that happens every expansion?

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    Of course its players who don't use the class or spec who want it shat on. There are more of those than those who do, so yeah, that's why I can see it happening.
    Demo used to be my go-to spec for Warlock (because of the Felguard, not because of Meta, and before Felguard because I wanted to specialize in summonings), but with the MoP "you need to be in this form to cast these spells, but this form to cast those spells" nonsense, it just got too clunky. If Meta gets removed from Demo, it won't be to give it to another class, it will be because Blizzard doesn't know how to make it work.

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    Death coil was a warlock spell (instant ranged fear)
    Death coil is now a DK spell
    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Death coil was a warlock spell (instant ranged fear)
    Death coil is now a DK spell
    I don't think Death Coil holds quite the same allure as Meta, somehow

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    I've read somewhere (too lazy to find it now) that Blizz stated they'd never make a demon hunter as a playable class because it would basically be a hunter and shaman mixed together.. and put those two classes out of a job.

    That being said, Blizz is known to go back on their statements, so I wouldn't put much stock into it. Expansion wise, I think they'd have to do something "exciting" to draw some of the playerbase back after WoD. A new class with "fun" gameplay and something we've never seen before (a hunter/shaman hybrid) would do it. Though I hope if they do impliment this class, it doesn't destroy any current class..

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Death coil was a warlock spell (instant ranged fear)
    Death coil is now a DK spell
    Wasn't this spells name Mortal Coil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laubman View Post
    Wasn't this spells name Mortal Coil?
    It is now, for Warlocks.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    You think they'd be privy to anything in order to produce this? Or, more likely just riding the pre-expansion hype and "leaks" involving the wishful thinking of a return of Illidan and implementation of Demon Hunters that happens every expansion?

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    Of course its players who don't use the class or spec who want it shat on. There are more of those than those who do, so yeah, that's why I can see it happening.
    My lock use to be demo until meta became the focus
    Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
    Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
    Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
    Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
    Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
    Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Death coil was a warlock spell (instant ranged fear)
    Death coil is now a DK spell
    Warlock still has that spell, as it was re-named to Mortal Coil (at some point).

    That said, Why couldn't we just rename Meta? Demon Form, for instance. I know it doesn't sound as cool, but meh. idc.
    Metamorphosis as a word means the process of transformation from an immature form to an adult form in two or more distinct stages.(source: metamorphosis definition on google)
    Ignoring the two stages part, all it means is to mature to an adult form. They can have the same name and do completely different things; metamorphosis then possibly be not thought of as an ability, and instead just means what it means? videogame philosophy is hard.

  16. #36
    If both Demon Hunters and Warlocks got Meta (which would be different mechanically and aesthetically anyway), likely one would be renamed to "Dark Apotheosis."

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthas242 View Post
    There will never be a demon hunter CLASS

    with the incoming demo revamp for 7.0 *because blizzard doesn't like how it plays*

    they will never take meta away as it's to much part of the warlock class now *and two classes with meta would be stupid*

    the most likely outcome is Demo gets split into two specs like FERAL DRUIDS DID.

    one focused on demon summoning/empowering minions *Demonolgy base don Gul'dan*

    The other one Meta/self empowerment *Demon Hunter based on Illidan* AS A TANK SPEC.
    *as many warlocks want warlock tanking back*
    Illidan also was in a sense a cloth wearer, As he worn only pants and and blindfold, he was a better magic user then ever a physical fighter *in books/lore* maybe not so much in games like HotS

    this solves many and all problems, it's easier to *split*make a spec then a new class.
    It add demon hunters
    It gives warlocks tanking back that was added in Mist *even though it got nerfed at release but was still viable in many situations*
    IT MIGHT also solve the lack of tanks problem because everyone and there mother wanting to be a Demon Hunter *although i wouldn't be surprised if they added a talent like Warriors Gladitators resolve*

    It also fits lore as KANRETHAD was obessed with Illidans powers and wanted to learn to control them himself *and he was a warlock*. The questline it self also hinted at Illidan being Alive. So it would not be out of reach Illidan returns to train a new set of demon hunters from THE BLACK HARVEST, which does comprise of horde and alliance warlocks, so it is easy to explain why both factions get .

    This would also allow to open up Night Elf Warlocks
    *maybe even draenei cause we had a expansion full of them and i want to be one of these two*
    You would feel really stupid if on Thursday a Demon Hunter class gets announced. Never say never.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper View Post
    If both Demon Hunters and Warlocks got Meta (which would be different mechanically and aesthetically anyway), likely one would be renamed to "Dark Apotheosis."
    The Name already exists for Warlocks. So... disable one, activate another.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    You know, when Demon Hunters get announced (doesn't have to be the next exp), you'll be the first person I reply to saying "told you so".
    No, that's Teriz.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unmerciful Conker View Post
    What?! They said soon? Well you dont hear that everyday, I dont know about you guys but that has put my mind at total rest.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Laubman View Post
    The Name already exists for Warlocks. So... disable one, activate another.
    Dark Apotheosis only came with the Demon Hunting glyph, which was removed.

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