Aimeri (Protection Warrior) Raid Lead of <Fusion> @ Zul'Jin-US
As a matter of fact, the only expansion I actually truly disliked was MoP. I thought it was horrid. Everything else, including WoD, kept me entertained and provided a place for me to have lots of fun with my guild mates.
Aimeri (Protection Warrior) Raid Lead of <Fusion> @ Zul'Jin-US
T11 is hands down my favorite raid tier to ever happen.
Cata world revamp was one of the most exciting times in WoW history during beta
T11 Dungeons were some of the most delightful experiences in 5 mans and tuning since TBC HoT-Heroics sucked fucking balls
Firelands patch. If anyone hated firelands and it's patch content they don't like WoW period.
Then Patch 4.3 happened and the entitlement flood gates opened. And here is the sad fucking state we are in today.
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MoP was good in content. But holy fuck the forced dallies for tokens to buy coins until 5.3
BATTLEFIELD FUCKING BARRENS
LOL
Hey guys 6.1 is bad. Here are two worse patches. Battlefield fucking Barrens and Patch 2.2
Hell I could say 4.1 People wouldn't shut the fuck up about Zul'aman and ZG 5 mans despite them actually being really good.
OH HEY
WAIT
CASE AND POINT
Only 1% saw Naxx. OKAY
Well honestly I doubt more then 1% saw ZA to completion either considering is was mid tier 5 and people were lucky if they were able to go anywhere beyond kara.
What happened in Cata with 4.1 OMFG BLIZZARD IS LAZY AS FUCK WHAAA WHAAAA WHAAAA. After they just revamped the whole fucking world and launched the one of the most diverse and larger raid tiers in the history of the game.
While a year long content drought is a hard thing to swallow, it depends on where you sit as a player. For someone who has always been casually playing for an hour or two a week, if not an hour a day, and started around Warlords launch fresh, no toons, they're likely hitting that barrier now. For players who have always been at the forefront of content, that amount of content given is a decent amount, enough to get them to invest for a little while, but whether or not it was rushed development or lack of content ideas and manpower for Warlords, it's obvious Warlords failed in some regard. (And no, throwing more money and developers at a game does not make it go faster. Have to train people on the code work, on the game engine, test them on design capability, see what they can do, create more management jobs for EXISTING staff to manage new people, and they still have to bug fix and work all the same, and the management alone takes a lot of time into it. Whether it was players demanding more content faster and blizz conceding, or blizzard rushing it so they have a way for Legion to go, it doesn't matter right now.)
That said, people look at the past either with rose-tinted glasses or absolute disdain. "Wrath was the best!" It had kept the most subs, yes, but the story dealt with the main character (arguably) from Warcraft 3, which a lot of that generation heard or played. It had a new class (first for the game), it had story and zone content that made more sense than Burning Crusade's, it had good raids, but there was a lot wrong. Ulduar cut short by ToC, complaints of class balance (For a while when weren't DKs OP there?), and such. "Cataclysm was the worst! Bad endgame, no content!!1!11!" Cataclysm's majority of it's content was in revamping the 1-60 experience entirely, including making two new races available, while still delivering a number of 80-85 leveling zones, multiple raids, dungeons, battlegrounds, and arenas that kept people engaged. The issue is not with WoD being so shit (the raiding is really nice, visuals too), but with the lack of content and the fact people expect more. If you want content on a rapid basis, pick up roleplaying in game (It's not erotic, seriously. It's just like writing a story, but making it interactive with other people.), and make the content yourself. Or, try another game. Start a new character, fresh, with 0 support from your other toons if possible. Try the other faction. Year long drought bothering you? Please, feel free to go play other games.
tl;dr : Droughts suck. Happened for one reason or another. WoW is not a basic right or need for sustenance and basic life. If you are not happy with how it is going or the lack of content, go play something else. Guild Wars 2 is pretty fun. Black Desert Online seems really nice if you have a higher end PC. Try FF14. Go outside. Something other than complain about something you seem to hate so much and have little say in controlling when on a fan-hosted news site forum.
Firelands and Dragonsoul are where my guild & raid team hit its peak (nothing amazing, not bragging or anything by any means). We had some awesome people that were great players and I've never had more fun. It definitely had to be a combo of that and the content that makes it so memorable for me.
Aimeri (Protection Warrior) Raid Lead of <Fusion> @ Zul'Jin-US
MoP was nice up until the last two patches (First one was Barrens uugghghghghghhg, second was way too long raid period, even if a nice raid.). Cataclysm was really nice going through it fresh 1-85 on a few toons. Kept me busy most of the expansion. 6.1 was bad, but even the developers said it was a mistake to label it a major patch, when it was more a 6.0.8. The more people claim Blizzard is being lazy, and to do better, well, go look at Legion so far. Dungeons look awesome. I like the class spec redesigns and refinements. I like Demon Hunter so far. The raid bosses? Look nice. Lore? Looks nice. Would I have wanted more battlegrounds? Absolutely, but 2 new arenas and 5 or 6 months away from the game and old BGs will feel like new to me again, especially with the spec redesigns. (AB with a few Outlaw rogues using the cannon barrage talent... visually amazing.).
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That was my guild during initial raids in Warlords, and from Throne of Thunder in Mists to Seige. People got busy with real life, got back, and got sad at the lack of PvP quality, and left again. Raid team died there.
Can't call that content tho, more like a thing people do when they're bored. Like collecting all battle pets, lvling 10 alts to 100, iron man challenge..
Whats up with people hoarding xmog gear and filling literally all their bags? Not like they will actually use all of it lol. Clear sign of nothing better to do.
Aimeri (Protection Warrior) Raid Lead of <Fusion> @ Zul'Jin-US
Yay someone non hostile said things for me
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it's content
I was going to comment further but I saw you were questioning why people would hold vanity items.
Yeah how dare people keep things for vanity.
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Despite the content of Legion sounding like the Best thing since Cata Beta. It unlikely I will even venture into it.
And the reason is simple and it's an untold reason people who dont have some hateful agenda or trying to justify their addiction with developer bashing.
The reason is that I stopped "feeling it" in WoD despite frankly top notch raids. I was just done. I drug myself through T17 and it was I limped into T18 saying I got this to GM and one week in I'm just like. I'm done.
The Tanann quests asked too much of me,
A fucking shipyard grind for someone who only has 4-5 hours in an entire day to play makes for a SLOW grind when your donig 1 mission a day.
Split raid locks meaning I get to see the bosses twice as much OH BOY,
Removal of gear customization and reliance on RNG for having a single hint of customization,
and a streak of the worst luck in a decade where I literally didn't see a single raid trinket that wasn't cached or coined drop for OUR ENTIRE STR roster in literally 6 months of BRF making personal performance dunk the deeper we went.
Genuine issues with the game. Still fun game. but I'm so fucking over MMOs in general now. The time commitment and nagging feeling to log on being gone is pure bliss.
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Aimeri (Protection Warrior) Raid Lead of <Fusion> @ Zul'Jin-US
Aimeri (Protection Warrior) Raid Lead of <Fusion> @ Zul'Jin-US
We were actually excited to get to raid Naxxramas again, however that wasn't Naxxramas. It was an LFR version of the raid. It took us the night of release to clear it in 10 man, and 1 save to clear it in 25 man.
My circles that have been playing WoW since 2005 believe WotLK to be the beginning to the decline of the game. Catering to too many different types of players and not steering the game in a certain direction just to inflate sub numbers. The casualization of a game that was already casualized, making similar amounts of content but with less difficulty and needed dedication which ultimately created WoD's "finish all in a week".
No, dear, I won't. Cross that soundbite off your list, it's stupid and untrue.
I am not playing WoW now, and they'd have to pull a miracle to get me back in Legion.
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LOL
Who cares? They are doing these "revamps" and "complete overhauls" all the time. They will do one after Legion, too, and they will say that what they did in Legion was wrong and worked terribly (and so they need to re-re-re-re-reoverhaul it all over again). They always do this.
Where's content, eh? Right, they renamed legendaries to artifacts. So good.
It was the decline.
Going from the FINISHED TBC story with bonus raids <ZA> and then u had Sunwells buster fights and Quel Danis and the wide variance of daily hubs for COSTMETICS. To be met with Wraths Dungeon tabard grind your reps in faceroll content and do your fucking hodir dallies because u need that shoulder enchant for 3D Sarth 10/25. The ONLY fight they made for the core raiders in the game. Course Naxx had praise though. All the Kara bottom feeders could do it. THen they got punched in the face by Yogg Saron.
But it's ok they Had ToC ONE BOSS A WEEK UNLOCKS and ICC FOUR MONTHS for Frost Wing and LK to unlock. But hey a year of stacking nerfs everyone is a winner YAY WE ARE RAIDERS. OMG here comes Cata to put everyone back in their rightful place game is too hard.
But don't worry Ulduar is the golden child of WoW. Despite having what 3-4 good fights which is generally the average per tier.
Rose tinted glasses for content that only lasted 4 months. Made obsolete ONE MONTH after the world first Yogg0 kill
April 14th-August 9th FOUR months.
is that pretty much how y'all view it?
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The movie is coming, Blizz think they'll bring players back after watching the movie so having more new content then is a better idea.
basically fuck current players because if your still playing everyday nothing they do will make you leave.
Dragonflight Nerfs vs fun again show a Blizzard that hasn't learnt a lesson, Actions speak louder than words afterall watch what they do and do not do.
Well let's be honest, WoD didn't really have any other content besides the raids. 6.1 brought selfies and only thing in 6.2 besides HFC was Tanaan, which failed in imitating Timeless Isle.
PvP is different beast. It doesn't need new content per se, since the meat of the gameplay comes from playing againts other players, the arena could be a round flat room. Hell people still play Quake and de_dust is still the most popular map in CS.
Just for perspective:
HS gets updates several times per year. MOBAs get constant updates. If you are looking for something that is almost like WoW, look at GW2, they get constant updates as well.
That's what we expect in 2016, constant updates, *especially* for a game with a sub.
Yes, I get that HS is different from WoW. No, it is NOT harder to update WoW than HS. Updates with things like Isle of Thunder can be coming *constantly*. Updates with things on the level of new profession recipes / collectibles / new fish / new chests / new events based on instance X or zone Y / etc, etc, etc, etc, can be coming *weekly*, they can be coming so fast that people will object to that and beg Blizzard to slow down.
Blizzard aren't doing that for WoW, because, well, because they do things differently. Their different way of doing things is failing spectacularly.