60 Minutes Crew attacked in Sweden.

[Redasurc]

If only our politicians had this insight...

There was next to no problems with chilean and pakistani migrants to nordic countries in the 1970s. Difference is religion compared to most migrants these days. Back in the 70s and early 80s the pakistani migrants were christians mostly.

So you you are very correct when you claim that the cultural differencies are to vast to merge flawlessly.

[Steve French]

It must be awful arguing with yourself in every thread.

Anyone that knows him/her knows its useless replying and already has him/her on ignore.

[ShadowofVashj]

Well generally speaking if you refuse to learn the language the majority of the country is speaking as well as reject any attempts to assimilate into their culture even in just a public sense, you're chances of finding a job are jack shit.

The problem is, with the rise of the SJW Nazi craze right around the same time as this migrant problem is developing, everyone is scared as shit to suggest that MAYBE some aspects of hardline interpreted Islam doesn't jive with, oh I dunno, the entirety of the Western World.

This isn't religious bashing either, this is simple truth. I mean ffs they hold rape victims responsible for their crimes.

[Katie N]

The man with the scooter. xDD

[Deleted]

Well generally speaking if you refuse to learn the language the majority of the country is speaking as well as reject any attempts to assimilate into their culture even in just a public sense, you're chances of finding a job are jack shit.

The problem is, with the rise of the SJW Nazi craze right around the same time as this migrant problem is developing, everyone is scared as shit to suggest that MAYBE some aspects of hardline interpreted Islam doesn't jive with, oh I dunno, the entirety of the Western World.

This isn't religious bashing either, this is simple truth. I mean ffs they hold rape victims responsible for their crimes.

Most of those people aren't practicing muslims though. Many are about as much of a muslim as I am a christian.

[Deleted]

THE GUY WITH THE SCOOTER OUT OF NOWHERE


#REALAMERICANHERO LOL

Fuck.

I like how they basically leave him after he drove in to the rescue...

I wonder if it was snackman on the scooter.

[Steve French]

I like how they basically leave him after he drove in to the rescue...

I wonder if it was snackman on the scooter.

We need to crowd fund him an armored scooter with a cowcatcher on the front. Lets support our heroes!

[Nyoken]

Where is Cartman when you need him......

[ShadowofVashj]

Most of those people aren't practicing muslims though. Many are about as much of a muslim as I am a christian.

My first statement still stands, however.

[RickJamesLich]

Sounds like Sweden is quickly turning into Detroit. I thought this diversity stuff was supposed to improve things though?

[Pengekaer]

There was next to no problems with chilean and pakistani migrants to nordic countries in the 1970s. Difference is religion compared to most migrants these days. Back in the 70s and early 80s the pakistani migrants were christians mostly.

So you you are very correct when you claim that the cultural differencies are to vast to merge flawlessly.

Yeah, it is my impression that many americans on this forum think the immigration in Europe is failing because of Europeans being xenophobic, but aside from the culture/religion thing (which is a huge factor, deny it or don't), we need to take a quick look at another big difference; the countries origin of the immigrants.

Mexico, Cuba, Colombia and the likes are large suppliers of immigrants to the US, yes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia

In fact, the HDI for most of South America is above.. 0.7-something...

Europe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eritrea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan
Palestine (I don't have HDI-data on this country of origin, but expect it to be on par with Yemen).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran (HDI 0.77)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey (HDI 0.76)

The difference in human development index for the countries of origin of the immigrants in the EU and US, respectively, is very noticeable. I do admit that some immigrant-suppliers to the European nations, like Iran and Turkey, have high HDIs but to be fair, these immigrants are also doing more reasonably in our society.
But look at the rest. HDI-levels for the countries of origin are generally MUCH lower in the case of the European immigrant groups than for the US: that is, the immigrants in Europe are generally much less educated or prepared for a modern job-market when they arrive compared to the immigrants the US accepts. Many americans do not at all factor this in when bashing Europe for poor integration-success.. the people we receive by the millions are MUCH worse off than those the US accepts. Fact, but not a fun fact. Here's a fun-fact: In Europe, we get immigrants from nations so underdeveloped they don't even know what a toilet is!
And my point is; we need to stop giving these people permanent stays. Accepting actual, legitimate refugees for a time, I can agree to. But giving them permanent stays and citizenship is plain nuts. Regarding that, I fully agree Mr Staal.

[Deleted]

My first statement still stands, however.

Most of those who are 2nd or 3rd gen in Rinkeby can speak Swedish, they're just putting on an intentional accent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinkeby_Swedish

[Deleted]

Sounds like Sweden is quickly turning into Detroit. I thought this diversity stuff was supposed to improve things though?

Some smaller areas in a few major cities are bad, if you leave the major cities, or just in general stay clear of a few rotten areas you'll probably never see any kind of crime what so ever.

I mean I live in a small town claimed to have not one but two "ghetto" areas, now I generally dont visit them since there is only houses and apartments there and no reason for me to go, but as far as crime is concerned.... I never hear anything, hell I havent seen the police in months.

The economical situation might be strained due to the current refugee situation, but even that I have doubts about, they provided no credentials for the man they interviewed in that clip besides from what they said, and I've never seen the man before in my life so doubt he is anyone important :P

Basically in context.... All this violence and shit people are spreading around about sweden, is by far and large not noticed by the people who live here, it's pretty much buisness as usual, except, there is more racism these days, alot more.

[sarahtasher]

As the above poster pointed it, that Muslims minorities cause what is pudically called ''insecurity'' (IE, crimes from petty to quite serious) is a serious issue, but a very localized one.

In France, the alleged no-go zones are not ''alleged'' in a sense. They exist. They are just far, far, far away from most tourist spots, in dilapidated suburbs. And while the locals make the authorities feel unwelcome, the French government have let them go to. (Begnin neglect is hardly an exclusive anglophone concept)

IE, yes, there are dangerous zones, like the Belgian suburb from which dozens of djihadists are from. Those are very poor zones (and were usually poor ones well before the Muslims) that are almost litteral dumping grounds.

[sweatshopkids]

Yes...Syrian are blacks Somalis. Yes.

They're all looking alike these days.

[Independent voter]

Yes, but there is something cultural in this too: education. Not all cultures value education equally. Like I said, Europe doesn't have a good low-skilled labor market because of the high minimum wages.
In the absence of a large low-skill market, the immigrants need more education . Much more. I'm not talking tertiary degrees here, it's entirely possible to get a nice life without.. but stuff like passed exams in ground school is a start. And here, we arrive at a cultural thing. Men especially from the arab world, loathe the very notion of a woman with authority (most teachers are women) and as such, school-teachers regularly receive threats or sex-offenses from these rambunctious boys (especially). Can you guess how these boys fare in school, being antagonized to their teachers from the very beginning? They fare miserably! And I dare say it's their own fault really. I know a school-teacher or two, and they always report that the parents to these 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants are impossible to corporate with, let alone get into contact with. Sad thing is, my government started a social experiment that failed miserably and we're stuck paying for these people for the next 100 years. There are no simple solutions. Like, at all.
Lower minimum wages won't fix the issue as long as the eastern Europeans are there to fill the void - and they're going nowhere.

We have cultural groups in the US who don't value education at all, they see it as effeminate. Mexicans are in this group and so are blacks, not all of them but a lot.

I think the wide range of jobs we have in the US, we have 1 million Canadians living and working in the US, mostly in STEM areas, and we also have minimum and below minimum wage jobs, that and we have lousy social benefits these two things really help immigrants integrate culturally and economically.

We have Somalis and other Muslim refugees too, they do really really well in the US. 80% of Syrians in the US are self sufficient within 6 months time.

Groups that do exceptionally well are Nigerians of all people, Cubans, Lebanese, and a few more, these people have something to prove.

[Hooked]

Most journalists are sissies nowadays.

[sarahtasher]

Most journalists are sissies nowadays.

What were you saying, that I'm making stuff up ?

[Hooked]

What were you saying, that I'm making stuff up ?

That's like saying water is wet.

[Vash The Stampede]

Is it just me or the Swedish speak very good English? <.< Anyway, Trump has an idea for them. BUILD A WALL! But holy crap, those people are pissed for a reason.