1. #1041
    Quote Originally Posted by lokithor View Post
    Haven't gone through all 55 pages, but what made ISIS set up shop in Belgium in the first place? Seems like most of the terrorist attacks lately have happened in Belgium or have been coordinated there.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6945761.html

  2. #1042
    Quote Originally Posted by lokithor View Post
    Haven't gone through all 55 pages, but what made ISIS set up shop in Belgium in the first place? Seems like most of the terrorist attacks lately have happened in Belgium or have been coordinated there.
    These experts were saying on the news how many Muslims in Belgium are much radicalized than even those in France. If the pattern continues when they arrest them, it will be all Belgian citizens. If they are connected to ISIS it will most likely be only through watching Youtube videos or tweets on Twitter, etc.
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    There is a photograph surfaced of the suspects of the attacks on Zaventem.
    The photo was shared on social media by the police, while those destined only for internal distribution.
    The two men left would have blown themselves.
    The man on the right, with the white jersey, is actively tracked for his involvement. It is not known who they are.
    They are, supposedly, muslim converts from Belarus. Russia warned the Belgian authorities for them, but they probably didn't do anything. Names used are Ivan and Andrei Dovbash and Marat (Y)Unusov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiandra View Post
    The two men left would have blown themselves.
    The man on the right, with the white jersey, is actively tracked for his involvement. It is not known who they are.
    Apparently they're very flexible.
    'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
    Or a yawing hole in a battered head
    And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
    And there they lay I damn me eyes
    All lookouts clapped on Paradise
    All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    These experts were saying on the news how many Muslims in Belgium are much radicalized than even those in France. If the pattern continues when they arrest them, it will be all Belgian citizens. If they are connected to ISIS it will most likely be only through watching Youtube videos or tweets on Twitter, etc.
    Saudi Arabia sends radical imams to preach in mosques in western Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiandra View Post
    There is a photograph surfaced of the suspects of the attacks on Zaventem.
    The photo was shared on social media by the police, while those destined only for internal distribution.
    The two men left would have blown themselves.
    The man on the right, with the white jersey, is actively tracked for his involvement. It is not known who they are.



    Source: http://www.hbvl.be/cnt/dmf20160322_0...haven-zaventem
    So we should be wary of people wearing just a left glove? That's what I learned from the picture.

    Somewhere out there is a right glove looking for his friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightwysh View Post
    So we should've wary of people wearing just a left glove? That's what I learned from the picture.
    We don't have to fear Michael Jackson anymore.

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    Ah, yet another failure of multiculturalist policies.

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    The awkwardness where liberals want to condemn the attacks without hurting the feelings of other muslims.

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    Would not be surprised if this kind of violence were to happen in Sweden as well.

    @ Bakis or other Swedes - do you live near in this area? Are you starting to experience the same things? I fear for the safety of Swedish citizens.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    The awkwardness where liberals want to condemn the attacks without hurting the feelings of other muslims.
    Not sure why you're making this a partisan issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Would not be surprised if this kind of violence were to happen in Sweden as well.

    @ Bakis or other Swedes - do you live near in this area? Are you starting to experience the same things? I fear for the safety of Swedish citizens.
    yeah our preparedness is shit, our police is dubious and understaffed, and we have way to many immigrants.
    all solvable problems, really, but then we need to start solving them.
    they need to stop being whatever shit they used to be and be assimilated.

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    Raise your hand if you were surprised by this.

    If you weren't, good for you for being awake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightwysh View Post
    So we should be wary of people wearing just a left glove? That's what I learned from the picture.

    Somewhere out there is a right glove looking for his friend.
    No you just have to warn the police if you notice the guy with the white jacket anywhere. That's what the picture tells you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiandra View Post
    No you just have to warn the police if you notice the guy with the white jacket anywhere. That's what the picture tells you.
    So...we shouldn't be scared of middle easterners wearing one glove?

  16. #1056
    You can repeating multiculturalism failure repeatedly, but what happens in France and to a lesser degree Belgium is not related to multiculturalism

    France pratice in theory assimilation (and, it should be said, did it remarkably well, starting with Irish refugees after James II flight) : however, Muslims minorities in French are usually neither assimilated or ''multiculture'' : they are left to their own devices in dilapidated suburbs (Dilapidated mostly because of petty vandalism and the like, but still)

    As for Belgium, the country is deeply divided other ''inner'' cultural issues in the first place, or rather linguistic ones. As for Québec, Muslims minorities tend to concentrate in French-speaking areas, at least the ones from North Africa. (Not many Muslims speak Flemmish..) with exacerbates problems in specific areas.

  17. #1057
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    The solution is not hyperventilate and treat terrorism like the 2.5 problem out of 10 that is, rather than a 9 out 10 problem, that it isn't.

    You'd think the use spending trillions of dollars over-reacting to 9/11 would have kind of been taken as the definitive guide of what not to do.

    But here we are. 15 years later, and a couple assholes with some bombs blow up the front door of some public facilities and kill a couple dozen people (an outrage for sure), and we're right back to pretending that terrorism is an existential threat and we should adopt extreme measures like expel all the Muslims, reject multiculturalism and pan-europeanism or don't take refugees or something of that nature.

    I'll say it again, the people who turn terrorism into a an Independence Day-City Destroy level threat aren't merely "letting the terrorist win", to use that tired phrase, they're ISIS and Al Qaeda's most important accomplices. These groups are no existential threats. They do not threaten our way of life. They are capable of small scale mayhem and that's it. But boy, they'd certainly love for you and I to pretend they're on the march, taking over planet earth, and a mere few victories away from slaughtering each and everyone of us infidels.

    So folks, let's not be ISIS's willing accomplices, k?
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzl View Post
    So...we shouldn't be scared of middle easterners wearing one glove?
    No you shouldn't be scared

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    You can repeating multiculturalism failure repeatedly, but what happens in France and to a lesser degree Belgium is not related to multiculturalism

    France pratice in theory assimilation (and, it should be said, did it remarkably well, starting with Irish refugees after James II flight) : however, Muslims minorities in French are usually neither assimilated or ''multiculture'' : they are left to their own devices in dilapidated suburbs (Dilapidated mostly because of petty vandalism and the like, but still)

    As for Belgium, the country is deeply divided other ''inner'' cultural issues in the first place, or rather linguistic ones.
    The default is multiculturalism, because people by default stick to what they know. Efforts need to be made to integrate migrants instead of supporting 'separate but equal' multiculturalism through policies of either tolerance or inaction.

    In some areas, it's inaction that leads to multiculturalism. In others, it's tolerance. In France and Belgium, it's probably more likely to be inaction, while in Northern Europe and the US, it's probably closer to tolerance.

  20. #1060
    There is a rapidly growing distaste for certain religious groups (this is not a bash) among the 1st and 2nd (3rd?) world populations. Surely, there must be some reason for this?

    Work must be done by these groups to police their own members if they wish to not be judged harshly.

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