How raid-alt friendly is Legion shaping up to be?

[Glas]

So I felt WoD was really rough for alt players... was wondering if anyone in the alpha/lots of knowledge of Legion could let me know how easy (or hard) it will be to maintain raid-focused alts?

[Wolfrick]

So even before you have played and Expansion you worry about your alts, how about hoping you never will play your alts since there is so much Content for your 1 preferred character (AKA Main char)

[Chuckadoodle]

So even before you have played and Expansion you worry about your alts, how about hoping you never will play your alts since there is so much Content for your 1 preferred character (AKA Main char)

That would be glorious, unlikely.. but glorious none the less

[Cæli]

That would be glorious, unlikely.. but glorious none the less

The thing so far is that Blizzard is forcing us to play (or to create) our alts AND to get them to max level EACH expansion if we want to unlock all gear from the new collection tab, and 1 time per armor type each time. This is the right moment for feedback, nothing set in stone yet.

[dixincide]

from what I've read. There is an artifact catch up in place for alt SPEC only, not alt characters.

And since the basis of this expansion largely flows behind the Artifact weapon and class identity (which usually follows player identity).
I feel it is safe to assume that it will have you place much more emphasis on your main character.


I think they want to get back to where a players name will pop up in conversation and someone will say "Oh yeah, they are that <Spec><Class> I keep hearing about"

[Heffladin]

from what I've read. There is an artifact catch up in place for alt SPEC only, not alt characters.

And since the basis of this expansion largely flows behind the Artifact weapon and class identity (which usually follows player identity).
I feel it is safe to assume that it will have you place much more emphasis on your main character.


I think they want to get back to where a players name will pop up in conversation and someone will say "Oh yeah, they are that <Spec><Class> I keep hearing about"

We're gonna end up with a healing/tank shortage again I swear...

[dixincide]

We're gonna end up with a healing/tank shortage again I swear...

Not an issue for me I tank and heal lol.

[epLe]

I play alts alot, to the extent that I might say I dont have any main.

WoD has been glorious for the alt'o'holics, garrisons provided them with mountains of gold, gear and all the mats I could ever need.
Group finder solved all their needs for raiding.

There has never been a more rewarding expansion to have alot of alts, Legion will for sure keep it up.

[Enthralled]

So I felt WoD was really rough for alt players...

Are you serious? I think it was the most alt-friendly expac ever. XP potions to level from 90-100 in hours, garrisons that showered us in gold, multiple catch-up mechanisms handing out purples like Oprah, raid difficulties ranging from Special Olympics to Mt. Olympus... but from a few hints dropped by Ion I got the impression that the devs had decided that they want to rein that party in a bit and make us focus more on our mains now.

[Phendrus]

The thing so far is that Blizzard is forcing us to play (or to create) our alts AND to get them to max level EACH expansion if we want to unlock all gear from the new collection tab, and 1 time per armor type each time. This is the right moment for feedback, nothing set in stone yet.

force - make (someone) do something against their will

they're not forcing you to do anything. By the sounds of it you dont play alts or dont want to, so you dont need all of the armor types unlocked. if you do want all the transmogs unlocked then that is your choice.

[Wolfrick]

That would be glorious, unlikely.. but glorious none the less

At least that would be an awesome mindset! lets hope blizzard has that ^^

Cheers mate

[George Costanza]

From the look of things it looks like it will be like WoD.

Just raider stuff no other content aside from the 5man stuff.

Which is meh.

[Cæli]

force - make (someone) do something against their will

they're not forcing you to do anything. By the sounds of it you dont play alts or dont want to, so you dont need all of the armor types unlocked. if you do want all the transmogs unlocked then that is your choice.

Forced is when there is only one way to do something we absolutely want, should we like it or not. We want something, but there is only one way that we don't like and that could have been different, by definition we are forced to take this path to get to our aim. Tell me an alternative way to unlock all on your main character without playing our alts

I want to complete my collection on my main character, which is, so far, a collection tab of every items in the game, I want to play my main as a "main game file", but to complete it we are "forced", then, to play alts, because there is no alternative currently. By the way I don't understand why a main char can't unlock (not transmog) a BoP appearance.

[Deleted]

I guess it has something to do with everyone rolling on anything and to give people less reason to actually ninja stuff.

Personally I would prefer an all unlock system (independent on armor – you get the transmog as long as something is bound to you). Like I said people would probably roll on any armor, however it would benefit the market, at least for enchanting, because more epics would be taken off the market and thus less disenchants.

IMO WoD ruined enchanting, because they removed so many enchanting slots, so people can equip their gear right away (in contrast to wait like 2 minutes because each guild raid has at least 3-4 enchanters with enough materials and they usually enchant for free or at least lend some mats.)
In addition they were granting anyone the ability to disenchant everything (though lower amount), this resulted in dust and shards were dropping so low that vendoring greens gave more profit.
In 6.2 they flooded the market with crystals to a point where it was not worth it to even craft the enchants (because they sell for like 400g and you need 4? crystals which cost 200g each).

[Shahad]

Are you serious? I think it was the most alt-friendly expac ever. XP potions to level from 90-100 in hours, garrisons that showered us in gold, multiple catch-up mechanisms handing out purples like Oprah, raid difficulties ranging from Special Olympics to Mt. Olympus... but from a few hints dropped by Ion I got the impression that the devs had decided that they want to rein that party in a bit and make us focus more on our mains now.

The legendary quest chain is the only thing preventing me from playing my alts. It's even worse than the MoP one, IMO. As far as I'm concerned, WoD was the worst expansion for alts out of those I played.

[chooi]

I hope Legion isn't alt-friendly at all because that would mean we had so much content for our main characters that we don't have the time and/or need to play alts.

[Rivin]

I hope Legion isn't alt-friendly at all because that would mean we had so much content for our main characters that we don't have the time and/or need to play alts.

Why not both? Have plenty of content so you don't feel the need for alts, but make rerolling decently easy in case you end up not liking whatever class/spec you chose. Especially with how much classes are changing this time around.

[chooi]

Why not both? Have plenty of content so you don't feel the need for alts, but make rerolling decently easy in case you end up not liking whatever class/spec you chose. Especially with how much classes are changing this time around.

Fair point. I was assuming that one enjoys his/her main character.

I agree that rerolling shouldn't be punishing. Though, 'rerolling' implies that you're changing your main character. 'Alts' are characters that you play next to your main character.

Optimally, it should be relatively easy to change your main character but not appealing to play more than 1 or 2 characters regularly at the same time because there is so much stuff to do even for only one character. In my opinion.

[Rivin]

Fair point. I was assuming that one enjoys his/her main character.

I agree that rerolling shouldn't be punishing. Though, 'rerolling' implies that you're changing your main character. 'Alts' are characters that you play next to your main character.

Optimally, it should be relatively easy to change your main character but not appealing to play more than 1 or 2 characters regularly at the same time because there is so much stuff to do even for only one character. In my opinion.

That's true, but alt catch-up and rerolling use the same systems.

[Krazzorx]

We don't know. End game content not unlocked yet. Too many questions.