Anita Sarkeesian's latest video, the male gaze in video games

[deadman1]

You get to control a female body, gaze upon it, some npcs are thinking about raping and/or eating the female body you control, creeping on it.
The most sexist stuff in the history of gaming.

And that stuff is seen as horrible and troubling, it's bad.

[Vorkreist]

It's a shame. Just make good video games. Instead they're objectifying women. What kind of person is ok with that?

Any straight healthy male

[deadman1]

It's a shame. Just make good video games. Instead they're objectifying women. What kind of person is ok with that?

Again, pixels aren't people, and if you want to feel represented, make your own games that represent you better.

[Pull My Finger]

I kinda like Anita. I'd like to have a cup of coffee with her some time. Not talk about all this stern genderism stuff for a change. We'd get along real good!

[thatguyVLAD]

Exactimundo but here lies the problem. They want to force companies to do what they want to see in their games. THey don't want to do it themselves

[Astronom]

Anita seems to share a vision of society with some of the early communist revolutionaries, particularly in Russia and China. Differences between the sexes are absolutely minimized. Men and women dress alike. Are encouraged and brought up to act as similar as possible. Sexual thoughts and desire are mostly suppressed, as they only serve to objectify and hence demean women. This sort of worldview was parodied in George Orwell's 1984.

For some reason she thinks the first step in establishing her feminist utopia is eliminating all forms of female "objectification" from video games.

[Graeham]

Exactimundo but here lies the problem. They want to force companies to do what they want to see in their games. THey don't want to do it themselves

It wouldn't be good enough, anyway. They'd just find something new to complain about - especially since they stand to make money and gain 'fame' through being vocal and seen as 'progressive'. Diversity for the sake of diversity just bores me and I say this as someone who would like to see more gay and bisexual men in videogames who aren't just a walking stereotype.

But if they're implemented they should just happen to be gay or bisexual because it makes sense for the character. Not just added to appease people screaming for a quota to be fulfilled.

[pandaman]

The Destiny example irks me, because if the woman sat down the same way as the man she'd complain her legs are too far open and sexualising her...


I doubt you can win either way with people like this.

[deadman1]

The Destiny example irks me, because if the woman sat down the same way as the man she'd complain her legs are too far open and sexualising her...


I doubt you can win either way with people like this.

The other thing that bothered me specifically about destiny is that she pointed out that they made their outfits look the same showing that the Bungie wanted to make the males and females equals on the battlefield, but then whined about something so trivial.

[Deleted]

Why is so many here getting triggered by her videos? Are you afraid there will be less sexualized women in games to follow? Just watch porn instead. Are you afraid there will be less games made if developers are afraid of Anita Sarkeesian? Seems unlikely to happen. Are you angry that you are feeling accused of being a sexist because you play video games? I really don't get what's so infuriating or dangerous here. It's like you crave something to be offended about and rage about.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

The Destiny example irks me, because if the woman sat down the same way as the man she'd complain her legs are too far open and sexualising her...


I doubt you can win either way with people like this.

Yeah, if these are the kinds of complaints that Media Feminist #1 wants to change... it must not be a terrible world out there in vidya games.

- - - Updated - - -

Why is so many here getting triggered by her videos? Are you afraid there will be less sexualized women in games to follow? Just watch porn instead. Are you afraid there will be less games made if developers are afraid of Anita Sarkeesian? Seems unlikely to happen. Are you angry that you are feeling accused of being a sexist because you play video games? I really don't get what's so infuriating or dangerous here. It's like you crave something to be offended about and rage about.

No one is raging. Quit shit posting.

[Yarathir]

Why is so many here getting triggered by her videos? Are you afraid there will be less sexualized women in games to follow? Just watch porn instead. Are you afraid there will be less games made if developers are afraid of Anita Sarkeesian? Seems unlikely to happen. Are you angry that you are feeling accused of being a sexist because you play video games? I really don't get what's so infuriating or dangerous here. It's like you crave something to be offended about and rage about.

Why are so many people here getting triggered by people criticizing her videos. Are they afraid that Anita Sarkeesian can't handle the criticism? Are they afraid that if her arguments are refuted, that women will be oppressed through games? Are they angry that they are feeling accused of supporting a fraud or believing silly, unfounded concepts because they like Anita Sarkeesian? I really don't get what's so hard to accept or deal with with. It's like they crave something to be offended and rage about.

[Ratyrel]

You get to control a female body, gaze upon it, some npcs are thinking about raping and/or eating the female body you control, creeping on it.
The most sexist stuff in the history of gaming.

The game presents all that in the most horrible way, as you embody Ellie in that situation. Analysing the experience like that is superficial and discounts the player's response.

[Astronom]

The other thing that bothered me specifically about destiny is that she pointed out that they made their outfits look the same showing that the Bungie wanted to make the males and females equals on the battlefield, but then whined about something so trivial.

This was a deliberate decision on her part. She's laying down the gauntlet here. She could have just stuck to criticizing cheesecake armor and blatant fanservice, and many people would admit yeah she maybe has a point. However her vision for society is more radical, as I've said. Any difference between male and female characters which is not absolutely necessary, even such a trivial one as how characters sit, is for her "problematic" and wrong.

[Deleted]

Why are so many people here getting triggered by people criticizing her videos. Are they afraid that Anita Sarkeesian can't handle the criticism? Are they afraid that if her arguments are refuted, that women will be oppressed through games? Are they angry that they are feeling accused of supporting a fraud or believing silly, unfounded concepts because they like Anita Sarkeesian? I really don't get what's so hard to accept or deal with with. It's like they crave something to be offended and rage about.

Interesting non-answer! Curiosity not really curbed.

No one is raging. Quit shit posting.

Pixels are not people and this cunt is an imbecile.

Honestly, this bitch just needs to shut the fuck up about a topic she is still retarded about.

can someone shut her up permanently? - everyone

Sarkeesian has always been a sexist jerk. She regularly cites outright lies. She holds up 'studies' and articles that intentionally misrepresent data to make a point. She uses inflammatory language to get her psychotic listener/viewerbase riled up
... She's dangerous. Not dangerous to men. She's dangerous to society. Creating fear, illusory gender imbalance, and false outrage only serves to stifle creativity, while scaring people into watering down their vision.

No one's raging, nothing to see here!

[Torched]

Oh the fraud has made another nonsense video, great.

[Yarathir]

Interesting non-answer! Curiosity not really curbed.

Were you describing your own response? You could answer? But you probably won't because you know your initial post was bullshit.

No one's raging, nothing to see here!

Oh wow! Out of 321 posts, you found 4 you can interpret as "raging". Oh boy!

Cherrypicking intensifies.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Interesting non-answer! Curiosity not really curbed.

No one's raging, nothing to see here!

Those people all made one comment and left. None of them are raging. OUt of 300+ comments, 4 called her a bad name and you think everyone here is raging?

Get real, man.

[Dezerte]

Look, Anita has the right to criticize video games. She has the right to that opinion. But you can still disagree with her and point out the fallacies she make without being an asshole (i.e. threats, insults etc) about it.

I think she's severely misrepresenting video games and she commits many logical fallacies in her critique. Based on some other videos I've seen about her I dare say she's a con-artist of sorts as well.

[Yarathir]

Look, Anita has the right to criticize video games. She has the right to that opinion. But you can still disagree with her and point out the fallacies she make without being an asshole (i.e. threats, insults etc) about it.

Which is what a lot of people are doing, I'd reckon.

I think she's severely misrepresenting video games and she commits many logical fallacies in her critique. Based on some other videos I've seen about her I dare say she's a con-artist of sorts as well.

I'm convinced she's a con-artist, with how she's handled her kickstarter. Overfunded 25 times and years later, she has yet to deliver.

And she started yet another kickstarter project.