The Ebon Blade's new Four Horsemen (massive spoilers)

[Gnarilex]

Personally I found him annoying. Although I played a DK all of WotLK so I might be a bit biased. Darion should have had the larger focus of the two.

[LazarusLong]

Except that his legend was true, as we saw later in the comics.

Zulkhan is right, when we compare Tirion to Alexandros, the first is a nobody before WotLK. And that's kinda bad when Tirion was one of the first five paladins.

Seems someone didn't play a vanilla.

[Hyde]

Would have preferred Dagran Thaurissan over Tirion. After everything we learned through Moira he wasn't actually that bad of a guy. Shame he got so little development. Wouldn't change Thoras Trollbane, though. He's plenty interesting without having to be from an opposing faction.

Agreed. Would had love to have a Dark Iron, a Scarlet Crusader, a Korkron and a Stromguard to be the Horsemen.

[Saturninus]

Seems someone didn't play a vanilla.

I played Vanilla, and I have very vivid memories of Tirion's quest-line. Tirion Fordring in Vanilla is not the same character as the one we're presented in Wrath. Wrath's depiction of Tirion is highly extrapolated; his quest against the Lich King is weirdly tangential and impersonal, and almost more theoretical than moral; his faith is expressed rotely. Ultimately he never made much sense as a foil for Arthas, who had plenty of other, much more recognizable characters chomping at the bit to kill him. Tirion was a poor man's substitute for Uther, and only took the forefront because literally every other major paladin figure from lore was killed off in WC2 and WC3.

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I played Vanilla, and I have very vivid memories of Tirion's quest-line. Tirion Fordring in Vanilla is not the same character as the one we're presented in Wrath. Wrath's depiction of Tirion is highly extrapolated; his quest against the Lich King is weirdly tangential and impersonal, and almost more theoretical than moral; his faith is expressed rotely. Ultimately he never made much sense as a foil for Arthas, who had plenty of other, much more recognizable characters chomping at the bit to kill him. Tirion was a poor man's substitute for Uther, and only took the forefront because literally every other major paladin figure from lore was killed off in WC2 and WC3.

He took the forefront because he was the Protagonist of the only book Chris Metzen has written himself.

[Saturninus]

Yeah, well, Metzen's never been a particularly good custodian of his own fiction. Just because he wrote it doesn't mean it was written well.

[PrivateSmiley]

True, but even still, i dont like the idea of death knights stealing other classes heroes, tirion is the quintessential paladin, turning him into a death knight is just stealing him

ummmmm. im going to stop you right there.

UTHER is the quintessential paladin.

which is why UTHER is in heroes of the storm

[LazarusLong]

I played Vanilla, and I have very vivid memories of Tirion's quest-line. Tirion Fordring in Vanilla is not the same character as the one we're presented in Wrath. Wrath's depiction of Tirion is highly extrapolated; his quest against the Lich King is weirdly tangential and impersonal, and almost more theoretical than moral; his faith is expressed rotely. Ultimately he never made much sense as a foil for Arthas, who had plenty of other, much more recognizable characters chomping at the bit to kill him. Tirion was a poor man's substitute for Uther, and only took the forefront because literally every other major paladin figure from lore was killed off in WC2 and WC3.

How about the scourge invasion and the actual forming of the Argent Crusade?

[Traveler Voltin]

Remove tirion and pick someone else.

[The Penguin]

Was just reading the Alpha Forums. Not sure why they can't just use Taelan Fordring.

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Seems someone didn't play a vanilla.

Tirion being inside a shack in the middle of nowhere, promised to create to recreate the Silver Hand because of his son's death in Hearthglen and that's it?

Then I guess you missed when Naxx was released and the entire hype around the Ashbringer, including the players that got the sword going around the entire game looking for more hints of the story, discovering the new hidden event inside the Scarlet Monastery?

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How about the scourge invasion and the actual forming of the Argent Crusade?

The Argent Crusade was formed in Wrath, not vanilla.

[Zulkhan]

Like...How Tririon lost the Ashbringer after landing on Northrend, or that whole Argent Tournament thing.

Losing the Ashbringer was kinda hilarious but the Tournament thing had actually a point.

Tirion Fordring in Vanilla is not the same character as the one we're presented in Wrath.

Well, that was kinda on purpose. In fact, we have been more or less responsible for that.

Yeah, well, Metzen's never been a particularly good custodian of his own fiction. Just because he wrote it doesn't mean it was written well.

It wasn't bad either. The writing style was rough (no surprise) but the story was good enough. Better than most Warcraft comics I read, definitely.

[steelballfc]

Well, guess what: Their cause is noble because fuck the Forsaken and their evil. Also, isn't their innocence possible to believe because they are constantly being corrupted and manipulated by demons?

if you read the comic "legends" you would know they Torture who is non-human

[McNeil]

Now that I think about it, I think Garithos would've been a cool choice as a horserider. I've always wanted to see him in WoW, but I doubt that we'll see him back after some ghouls devoured his body.

[Keristrasza]

It was Bolvar who said to Tirion "You and these brave heroes have your own destiny to fulfill. This last act of service, is mine."

Being kinda inactive for 3 expansions and die at the beginning of the next one doesn't sound like this big destiny to fulfill.

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All right, you're just a bit late though.

So many posts, I wasn't sure and to lazy to read all of them. xD

[bloodmoth13]

ummmmm. im going to stop you right there.

UTHER is the quintessential paladin.

which is why UTHER is in heroes of the storm

Within the confines of WoW, uther doesnt appear and hes dead, tirion is the current paladin benchmark is what i meant

[Gnarilex]

Within the confines of WoW, uther doesnt appear and hes dead, tirion is the current paladin benchmark is what i meant

Well, not anymore.

[Justpassing]

Losing the Ashbringer was kinda hilarious but the Tournament thing had actually a point.

Um, Tirion never actually "lost" the Ashbringer, he entrusted it with another paladin beacuse he was fearing that on his way to Northrend the Cult of the Damned would infiltrate the ships & assassinate him. Which kinda happened.

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Within the confines of WoW, uther doesnt appear and hes dead, tirion is the current paladin benchmark is what i meant

I never knew a actually good Paladin RPer who ever saw Tirion as a Iconic Paladin Character.

[bloodmoth13]

Well, not anymore.

Hue hue huechar

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I never knew a actually good Paladin RPer who ever saw Tirion as a Iconic Paladin Character.

I imagine role players are the type of players that actually bother to read the lore, so they would likely be privy to knowledge of other paladins, particularly Uther, but if you only ever played wow and didnt read up on any of the lore, the most paladiny of paladins is tirion, or rather the only relevant paladin is tirion