Mississippi governor signs law that allows businesses to refuse service to gay couple

[kail]

Sure why not.

I don't know of any religion that believes this but that's what you get with private property rights and free association rights.

You seem to have this illusion that private property gives people the right to break the law...

[breadisfunny]

I agree - but refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple in not "horrible" or "inhumane". I think the gays, given all of the rights they have achieved in the past few years (the right to marriage, the right to serve openly in the military, social acceptance on television and movies), can capitulate on this one issue. Throw a bone to the religious folks, ffs.

no they aren't obligated to concede anything to your religious bigotry.

[Deleted]

Baking a cake does not condone the ritual.

In the eyes of Christian it sure the hell does. Just because YOU don't think does not matter.

[Nobar]

You seem to have this illusion that private property gives people the right to break the law...

It has happened before, that is what happens when the Constitution (from which rights are protected) trumps even federal law.

[Deleted]

no they aren't obligated to concede anything to your religious bigotry.

MY religious bigotry? I am an atheist, little buddy. Go direct your hostile militancy at someone who actually gives a fuck.

[Felya]

I agree - but refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple in not "horrible" or "inhumane". I think the gays, given all of the rights they have achieved in the past few years (the right to marriage, the right to serve openly in the military, social acceptance on television and movies), can capitulate on this one issue. Throw a bone to the religious folks, ffs.

Okay, how about religious institutions do not need to pay taxes? Is that a good enough bone? A business is not a religious institution, while anyone who would toss their religion under the bus, to protect their own opinion... is not actually religious... They are more like a politician that uses religion to gain support for their opinion...

[breadisfunny]

MY religious bigotry? I am an atheist, little buddy. Go direct your hostile militancy at someone who actually gives a fuck.

my point still stands and you have not refuted it.

[Felya]

In the eyes of Christian it sure the hell does. Just because YOU don't think does not matter.

Just because YOU think so, does not mean it's a Christian thought.

[Deleted]

my point still stands and you have not refuted it.

LOL - what point? Go troll someone else.

[Nobar]

Just because YOU think so, does not mean it's a Christian thought.

The words you are looking for are "Enabling" and "Abetting".

[Deleted]

How is mixed marriage that far off the scope? Go back 50 years and this is the exact same religious argument made at that time.

I quoted the exact scope - just because you want to extrapolate it to fit your agenda/point does not even remotely mean it is legitimate.

[Felya]

MY religious bigotry? I am an atheist, little buddy. Go direct your hostile militancy at someone who actually gives a fuck.

You'd have no problem, if someone ascribed prejudice to your belief? If someone said they do not want gays in their business because that's their athiest creed. You would honestly defend their opinion as athiest opinion?

[kail]

I have a hard time with this, because I don't believe the government should be able to take away the right for a business to refuse service to anyone (Example: I've kicked out drunks that have tried suing in my own state, which allows us to deny service. One using a culture card, instead of "I was drunk as shit"); yet I'm also an LGBT ally, who's decades deep in counter culture.

Statism isn't the ally of the LGBT community. Never has been and currently is just feeding off their votes, yet it's the only way some people see of fighting back now.

You can refuse service to others for a variety of reason's, just not based on race, religion, sex preference, etc. The store I work for has kicked people out for being a pain in the ass. That is the right any business has.

[PosPosPos]

LOL - what point? Go troll someone else.

Why is it not surprising that known far right wing individuals love to cry wolf when confronted with legitimate challenges?

Regardless of whether you are actually an atheist, that doesn't disqualify you from being a bigot, religious or not.

[Felya]

The words you are looking for are "Enabling" and "Abetting".

No, I prefer throwing unde the bus.

[Sky High]

if this forum was any indicator of the buying habits of gay people, you would think all they ever do is buy cake.

[Nobar]

No, I prefer throwing unde the bus.

I'm sorry that you can't understand that many practicing Christians hold enabling sin in equal weight to participating in it.

That's your problem.

[breadisfunny]

LOL - what point? Go troll someone else.

either refute my point or stop posting.

[Deleted]

In the other thread that came up a few weeks ago we pretty much hashed it out that people in public service or lifesaving professions wouldn't be able to do so, but if you're a butcher, baker or candlestick maker it'd be just fine.

That is just plain stupid, its not "fine" if you are a company to refuse service to anyone. It really doesn't matter if you are a private company or not, you can't just refuse people because you feel like it. If your religion doesn't allow you to sell to someone then its time to find another religion that does, or quite your job there.

[PosPosPos]

Just because YOU think so, does not mean it's a Christian thought.

I know right? It's ironic when someone acts all high and mighty and speak for all christians in general and discredit critics, then he himself claims to be atheist.