Legion Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[huth]

I don't have a problem with an OPTION to have a pet, what I'm against is the approach that makes Marksman depend on the pet (as it does now) and have a 'hack' called Lone Wolf to have an OPTION not to.

I think it's more of a technical issue whether opt in or opt out works better. From what i understood, Marksmen are still supposed to go petless, and they only have the most basic pet handling abilities.

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Agreed, tbh hunter could have undergone the same treatment I.E melee/ranged.

I think that's primarily due to Blizzard not wanting to remove existing specs. And i can understand that some people would be quite upset about that.

[rcshaggy]

Are we getting New Playable Races after Legion?
Don't get me wrong I am going to love the hell out of Demon Hunters, just curious is all.

Some possible races we can see becoming playable:
Ogres - More fixes, and animations. Need female model, and can use the Warlords of Draenor Ogre Model. (Perfect for Horde side)
Naga - Probably
Jinyu - If they get their own skeleton and their own female model. Still too if people like the Zora/Fish People race (Perfect for Ally Side)
Arrakoa - Probably
Vrykul - Maybe

Sub-Races can be a thing too, if they want to add more customization to the Playable Races.

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I think it's more of a technical issue whether opt in or opt out works better. From what i understood, Marksmen are still supposed to go petless, and they only have the most basic pet handling abilities.

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I think that's primarily due to Blizzard not wanting to remove existing specs. And i can understand that some people would be quite upset about that.

I would be pissed about that.
Picked certain specs for a reason, and I do enjoy them. If they remove them, what's the point in playing them to begin with?

[thilicen]

I would be pissed about that.
Picked certain specs for a reason, and I do enjoy them. If they remove them, what's the point in playing them to begin with?

I get that, it's mostly a balance thing. Would make things a lot easier, but yeah player outrage would certainly be an issue.

[Chickat]

Problem is normally the tuning is really off for dungeons so there isn't much difficulty difference so there's not a ton of interest in testing them.

Eh, idk. I remember plenty of heroic dungeon videos in past expansion betas.

[thilicen]

Eh, idk. I remember plenty of heroic dungeon videos in past expansion betas.

Sure as hell remember FatBoss videos of WoD dungeons, they were pretty damn hard at that time.

[Chickat]

Ogre or Naga are both good choices for an Island themed expansion. Im sure theres some Ogre island in the South seas. Probably a shorter tribe too. As for naga. Would they have feet, or slither?

[Tartys]

Ogre or Naga are both good choices for an Island themed expansion. Im sure theres some Ogre island in the South seas. Probably a shorter tribe too. As for naga. Would they have feet, or slither?

Into the Hall of the Guardian, when you have finish the Mage Artifact chain missions, you got a quest from The Great Akazamzarak where you ask to him to recruit some mages... and he suggest to recruit "ogre magi". This is the quote from the quest...
Great Akazamzarak: I know just the place to go to recruit some mages. A whole city of them, in fact! You don't have anything against ogres, do you?

It doesn't mean that we will have the ogres playable, but Ogres will be present even in Legion.

BTW, after the DH, for the next expansion, I doubt Blizzard will introduce a new class, so could play the card of the sub-races... but we dont know if the next expansion will the "island themed"...

[thilicen]

Into the Hall of the Guardian, when you have finish the Mage Artifact chain missions, you got a quest from The Great Akazamzarak where you ask to him to recruit some mages... and he suggest to recruit "ogre magi". This is the quote from the quest...
Great Akazamzarak: I know just the place to go to recruit some mages. A whole city of them, in fact! You don't have anything against ogres, do you?

It doesn't mean that we will have the ogres playable, but Ogres will be present even in Legion.

BTW, after the DH, for the next expansion, I doubt Blizzard will introduce a new class, so could play the card of the sub-races... but we dont know if the next expansion will the "island themed"...

Could easilly be a reference to Dire Maul, maybe even Blade's Edge fortress, there's definitely no Ogre architecture to be found on the Broken Isles from what I've seen.

[schwarzkopf]

I think it's more of a technical issue whether opt in or opt out works better.

Problem is - if a Marksmen has to spend a talent to enter the 'default state' then it is a faulty design as they are one talent down in their default state.

[huth]

Problem is - if a Marksmen has to spend a talent to enter the 'default state' then it is a faulty design as they are one talent down in their default state.

Sometimes you only get the choice of which faulty design to use.

[schwarzkopf]

Sometimes you only get the choice of which faulty design to use.

The not having a pet at all seemed fine to me...

[Nayami]

What about making Lone Wolf a baseline passive for MM? You can choose to have a pet out and if you dismiss it then you gain the personal damage bonus.

[Deleted]

We expecting a new build today?

[Raiju]

We expecting a new build today?

new build hype? new build hype!

We are waiting on the build that will give various specs mana bars, though.

[Tartys]

Could easilly be a reference to Dire Maul, maybe even Blade's Edge fortress, there's definitely no Ogre architecture to be found on the Broken Isles from what I've seen.

Infact, no one mention any "Ogre architecture"... Akazamzarak is recluting Magi Ogre to bring them into the Hall of the Guardian, in Dalaran that is in Broken isles. And I suppose this "recluting" stuff will be part of the Mage Class Campain, like shamans go to reclute Elements to use into the Class Hall.

[stormgust]

new build hype? new build hype!

We are waiting on the build that will give various specs mana bars, though.

And also several changes too blood dk talents (yet again ...)

[Tartys]

new build hype? new build hype!

We are waiting on the build that will give various specs mana bars, though.

Why not?

[Drekmar]

I really hope we get a build this week.

[FenixAU]

I really hope we get a build this week.

If we're going to, it's likely to be today.

[Adramelch]

Infact, no one mention any "Ogre architecture"... Akazamzarak is recluting Magi Ogre to bring them into the Hall of the Guardian, in Dalaran that is in Broken isles. And I suppose this "recluting" stuff will be part of the Mage Class Campain, like shamans go to reclute Elements to use into the Class Hall.

It says "A whole city of them", which kinda implies that it's a whole city full of Ogres, ie Ogre Architecture. Dire Maul makes sense.