Legion Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Adoxe]

A bit off-topic here... Rest in Peace Nostalrius: https://en.nostalrius.org/

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[Smaxy]

Let's talk about Legion


Who comes back here first: Feali or Gif Dwarf?

[Ersula]

No one is talking about legion dude.

"Legion Alpha/Beta General Discussion"

[Krazzorx]

I just am curious why no info about this build yet?

[Padwarle]

I just am curious why no info about this build yet?

Gotta wait for datamining I guess.

[Krazzorx]

Gotta wait for datamining I guess.

More I meant the traditional Celestalon "alpha build notes"

[Padwarle]

More I meant the traditional Celestalon "alpha build notes"

Iirc, the last build's notes were not out for a while. Guess it's the same here.

[Deleted]

Confirmed: Legion release before X-Mas

great now we just need a tradis or a flux compensator to figure out which xmas! ^^

[George Costanza]

Illidan will put himself in the avatar of sargeras body. at the end of legion and then getting blessed by the final titan and thus he gets his naarusupersaiyancrapwritingfuckthisshit form.

[Seramore]

last weeks build went live at 8 pm, so get comfortable boys

[Deleted]

I hope so hard for beta... I already have my beta key ensured by winning a giveaway of vanion eu...
PLS I need to see what they have done to my class...
Profession HYPU!

[Simca]

Again, past expansion testing phases didn't have a event where "Alpha's starting guys invites are going out."

This is... somewhat true?

Off the top of my head:

• I know Vanilla had an Alpha, but I don't know much about it. Based on the amount of information I've heard about it, I doubt it was under an NDA. Personally, I didn't pick up WoW until December 2014, a month after Release. I know TBC had a Beta (I was in it), but I don't know about the Alpha. Based on what I remember of TBC and how untested most of it was (i.e. virtually all the raid content), I seriously doubt it was public, even in secret.
• Wrath and Cataclysm had secret (more like 'worst kept secret', but I digress), NDA-enforced Alphas that were not in-house. After the leaks in Cataclysm Alpha, they finally learned how stupid that idea was (lol NDAs in the era of the internet).
• MoP's Alpha was 100% in-house and and the first beta wave was F&F + some yearly pass people. This can partially be blamed on the yearly pass thing (i.e. they had to do it that way), but not entirely.
• WoD had a public, NDA-less Alpha (which started F&F), but it didn't last too long (a month and a half?). For the majority of the WoD Alpha, there was only one playable zone (FFR) and one playable faction (Horde).
• Legion has had a longer public Alpha than any other Blizzard game besides Heroes of the Storm (whose Technical Alpha phase lasted for 10 months). However, the game has never had classes or specializations literally unplayable for extended periods of time in any public testing phase before.

Personally, I think they're defining Alpha vs Beta purely on two criteria:

1. Are enough zones playable (i.e. >=2)?
2. Are all of the factions, races, classes, and specializations playable?

This explains WoD's Alpha period (Beta launched with Gorgrond, a few weeks after they made Alliance playable). If this is the case, Destruction being done may be indicator for the last build before Beta.

[schwarzkopf]

You see stuff like this across all kinds of classes.

Name one class that requires you to spend a talent to enable default play. Every other class allows default play with zero talents selected.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

This is... somewhat true?

Off the top of my head:

• I know Vanilla had an Alpha, but I don't know much about it. Based on the amount of information I've heard about it, I doubt it was under an NDA. Personally, I didn't pick up WoW until December 2014, a month after Release. I know TBC had a Beta (I was in it), but I don't know about the Alpha. Based on what I remember of TBC and how untested most of it was (i.e. virtually all the raid content), I seriously doubt it was public, even in secret.
• Wrath and Cataclysm had secret (more like 'worst kept secret', but I digress), NDA-enforced Alphas that were not in-house. After the leaks in Cataclysm Alpha, they finally learned how stupid that idea was (lol NDAs in the era of the internet).
• MoP's Alpha was 100% in-house and and the first beta wave was F&F + some yearly pass people. This can partially be blamed on the yearly pass thing (i.e. they had to do it that way), but not entirely.
• WoD had a public, NDA-less Alpha (which started F&F), but it didn't last too long (a month and a half?). For the majority of the WoD Alpha, there was only one playable zone (FFR) and one playable faction (Horde).
• Legion has had a longer public Alpha than any other Blizzard game besides Heroes of the Storm (whose Technical Alpha phase lasted for 10 months). However, the game has never had classes or specializations literally unplayable for extended periods of time in any public testing phase before.

Personally, I think they're defining Alpha vs Beta purely on two criteria:

1. Are enough zones playable (i.e. >=2)?
2. Are all of the factions, races, classes, and specializations playable?

This explains WoD's Alpha period (Beta launched with Gorgrond, a few weeks after they made Alliance playable). If this is the case, Destruction being done may be indicator for the last build before Beta.

I think their thought proccess is, get all the heavy work out done in Alpha. Beta will have Legion MOSTLY done. That's the impression they've given me. They've surprised me more then once though.

[Deleted]

I am pretty sure the alpha thing is as people have suggested just a title blizzard are using because of the assumption of keys being given out en mass to people when in beta. Hec there is even evidence on this very forum of people hoping they go beta for that very reason but the issue is more compounded because wod was so contentless and people are really hungry for new and exciting content. It actually fairly smart in this respect they get there tight group testing done and can make sure everything is tightly working before they do go beta . I am sure beta will just be a stress test anyway. So until nearly everything is pretty much set in stone accept a few balance tuning passes I dont see beta coming out until that happens so like 3-4 more weeks

[Fawkess]

Test agaadsasdasd

The great and powerful Chaud has graced us with his pressence

[Gnarilex]

Name one class that requires you to spend a talent to enable default play. Every other class allows default play with zero talents selected.

Many shadow priests in the thread would argue Reaper of Souls (lvl 60 tier talent) should be baseline, otherwise our execute SW is virtually useless with it only generating insanity on kill. But I digress, they wanted marksman to be about no pets. Shouldn't have to pick a talent to make that possible.

[Padwarle]

The great and powerful Chaud has graced us with his pressence

That face when you quote an Admin and then they delete their post.

[Fawkess]

Many shadow priests in the thread would argue Reaper of Souls (lvl 60 tier talent) should be baseline, otherwise our execute SW is virtually useless with it only generating insanity on kill. But I digress, they wanted marksman to be about no pets. Shouldn't have to pick a talent to make that possible.

How are shadow priests looking in Legion so far anyway?

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That face when you quote an Admin and then they delete their post.

I found it kinda weird to see him making a test post in this thread

[Padwarle]

I found it kinda weird to see him making a test post in this thread

This can only mean one thing... 7.0 PTR and Beta confirmed!