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  1. #421
    lol, sounds bout right

    Yeah I looked and didn't notice anything in the ST action list.

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    Scarab Lord miffy23's Avatar
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    Are you going to keep up on the addon for Enh in Legion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miffy23 View Post
    Are you going to keep up on the addon for Enh in Legion?
    Yeah, I've been working on the underlying engine for Legion -- my primary concern is modeling Maelstrom generation accurately and I've got a pretty solid algorithm for predicting generation from auto-attacks now.

    Biggest setback will be whenever Legion hits beta. I'm moving again at the end of April / early May, so that's when I anticipate addon testing to begin.
    Author, Hekili, a priority helper addon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hekili View Post
    Yeah, I've been working on the underlying engine for Legion -- my primary concern is modeling Maelstrom generation accurately and I've got a pretty solid algorithm for predicting generation from auto-attacks now.

    Biggest setback will be whenever Legion hits beta. I'm moving again at the end of April / early May, so that's when I anticipate addon testing to begin.
    Should be fine, I don't expect a release anytime before July.

    Great to hear! I'll help out with testing when it's time!

  5. #425
    Can you quickly explain how to stop the SgT bar not being changed to AoE when multiple enemies are about?

    I'm coming back to the game for a bit and trying to learn the sgt rotation, I've kep the AoE rotation above so I know when to swap when there's multiple targets but I don't want my SgT buttons to change. I've tried moving the sliders about but I've had no luck.

    Thanks in advance for anyone who can help, big fan of the addon Ive been using it for ages
    Raining Pandarens because of the bouncy racial?
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    Some Might say it was... (•_•).....( •_•)>⌐■-■....(⌐■_■) A heavy Rain.
    I'm so sorry ;_;

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    Simply uncheck the option to dynamically detect targets and switch rotation depending on them.

  7. #427
    If you are in beta and have WeakAuras installed, you can help me test the Enhancement priority list by using my work-in-progress WeakAura version of Hekili.



    Anatomy of the WeakAuras group: Single icon for current recommendations. Surrounding the icon is a progress bar/border for Crash Lightning, so you can see if it's up and how long til it wears off. To the right of the main icon is an icon for Wind Shear, which will only appear if the enemy is casting an interruptible spell and your Wind Shear is either available, or will be available before the cast finishes.

    There's also a Maelstrom bar and a narrow Mana bar underneath. You can easily disable any of these icons as desired.

    Code:
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    Pastebin Link: http://pastebin.com/YW5Dp3Ss

    Priority List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    I don't have action lists that have been evaluated by sims, so looking for feedback as to how it feels.

    There are some settings on the Load tab of the MiniHekili Enhancement aura that you can modify as well, if you are ambitious. See the Init section.

    aura_env.updateInterval - This is how frequently you want the icon to update. 0.05 means 20/sec.

    aura_env.lastUpdate - Ignore.

    aura_env.targetWipeInterval - This is how frequently the target counter will purge enemies that you haven't hit and haven't hit (melee'd) you. Default is 5 seconds. Enemies are still automatically removed if killed, as long as the game fires UNIT_DIED or UNIT_DESTROYED.

    aura_env.showCooldownRing, invertCooldownRing, showRangeHighlight - Should be straightforward.

    aura_env.enabledToggle - Keybinding to enable or disable the aura (and the "Crash Lightning" border/bar around it).

    aura_env.cooldownsToggle - Currently does nothing but tell you cooldowns are enabled or disabled (cooldowns aren't included in the aura at this time).

    Your enabled/disabled setting will save between sessions. I wouldn't edit anything after the line that starts with WA_MiniHekili_Enh_Enabled...

    Feedback appreciated. This will help establish the priority list(s) for the full addon version when it is ready. Thanks!

    ...

    Oh, and the CD bar is a separate group, available here: http://pastebin.com/nSPU1fsN

    CDs are sorted by Damage vs. Utility, then by their actual cooldown duration. Use as you see fit.
    Author, Hekili, a priority helper addon.

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    Nice. As retri paladin and a big fan of your rotation i wonder if you gonna continue it in legion and if you will(i really hope so!) having a weakura i could use meanwhile in beta.

    Eroox

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    Hopefully will be getting continued for both Pally and Shaman in Legion!! Looking forward to it!

  10. #430
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    Started testing now =)

    I would personally prefer Doom Winds not to pop up, as I always handle cooldowns myself.

    Some things I noticed:

    - Crash Lightning is suggested sometimes even with targets in the area that have not been engaged or are in range of Crash Lightning.
    - When in Ascendance, Windstrike is suggested despite not having sufficient Maelstrom
    - Maelstrom levels don't seem to impact suggestions sometimes. For example, being capped on 100 it will still suggest Rockbiter sometimes despite having a spender available. This is especially noticeable with Doom Winds, Wolves or Ascendance up, the rotation does not reflect the increased Maelstrom generation as of yet. After some more testing it's not suggesting Rockbiter at 100, but with Maelstrom cooldowns up it will still suggest Rockbiter at, say, 80 or 75 Mael, which leads to overcapping a lot.
    - Flametongue and Frost are sometimes suggested with 5-6s remaining on the uptime. Might be with certain cooldowns up as well, gonna keep checking.
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  11. #431
    Quote Originally Posted by miffy23 View Post
    Started testing now =)

    I would personally prefer Doom Winds not to pop up, as I always handle cooldowns myself.
    Will actually make the cooldowns keybinding a thing in the near future.

    Some things I noticed:

    - Crash Lightning is suggested sometimes even with targets in the area that have not been engaged or are in range of Crash Lightning.
    There's no way to detect if enemies are within range. The target count (which is the only thing influencing whether CrL is considered usable) counts anything you've hit with any ability and anything that's melee'd you.

    - When in Ascendance, Windstrike is suggested despite not having sufficient Maelstrom
    Hm, hadn't noticed that. There's no logic on-board that ignores Maelstrom while in Ascendance, but will figure it out.

    - Maelstrom levels don't seem to impact suggestions sometimes. For example, being capped on 100 it will still suggest Rockbiter sometimes despite having a spender available. This is especially noticeable with Doom Winds, Wolves or Ascendance up, the rotation does not reflect the increased Maelstrom generation as of yet. After some more testing it's not suggesting Rockbiter at 100, but with Maelstrom cooldowns up it will still suggest Rockbiter at, say, 80 or 75 Mael, which leads to overcapping a lot.
    You'll overcap a lot anyway. Doom Winds seems to be an "I want to overcap" button. Anyway, there's no Maelstrom prediction in the WeakAuras version at all, so all decisions are made based on what you're actually doing at the moment.

    - Flametongue and Frost are sometimes suggested with 5-6s remaining on the uptime. Might be with certain cooldowns up as well, gonna keep checking.
    Will look into it. The logic is intended to reflect that it'd fall off within a GCD of FT/FB becoming available. Thanks for the feedback.
    Author, Hekili, a priority helper addon.

  12. #432
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hekili View Post

    There's no way to detect if enemies are within range. The target count (which is the only thing influencing whether CrL is considered usable) counts anything you've hit with any ability and anything that's melee'd you.
    It was probably that annoying passive Flamescale hitting a critter or something then.



    Hm, hadn't noticed that. There's no logic on-board that ignores Maelstrom while in Ascendance, but will figure it out.
    I've only seen it happen once, when I hit Ascendance without enough Mael for a Windstrike.


    You'll overcap a lot anyway. Doom Winds seems to be an "I want to overcap" button. Anyway, there's no Maelstrom prediction in the WeakAuras version at all, so all decisions are made based on what you're actually doing at the moment.
    True, i just try to stack up temp buffs and spam LL as much as i can, so it flies against my instincts to use Rockbiter at 5s+ left and 80+ Mael.

    Will keep at it during dungeons the next few days and maybe raids.
    I'll try different talent combos as well.

  13. #433
    My impressions from my own play so far is that there's almost no point in trying to maintain Maelstrom at/around 50 because you generate so much, so fast. Will be able to sim in the near future and see what that pushes us toward...

    Which talents are you using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hekili View Post
    My impressions from my own play so far is that there's almost no point in trying to maintain Maelstrom at/around 50 because you generate so much, so fast. Will be able to sim in the near future and see what that pushes us toward...

    Which talents are you using?
    Currently http://www.wowdb.com/talent-calculator#Cu5e

    So far I've found that without DW, FS or ASC up the Mael generation seems to be just right to get a few LL or 1 SS + some other abilities plus the FT/Frost weaving in. Without cds I can't see holding around 50 Mael being viable without delaying LLs, whereas with DW or FS or Asc up or any combination of the three it's impossible not to cap. So yeah, I guess following the normal rotation during cooldowns isn't a huge deal, but we're still missing out on more damage by using fewer LLs instead of fewer Rockbiters, that's why Rockbiter at 65,70,75 Mael with DW/FS/Asc up and 5s+ of Rockbiter uptime remaining goes against what I perceive as optimal.

    On the flipside I may be overthinking it too, as I'm merely talking about short burst fights right now and not longer raid fights. I'll have to check it out in other settings.

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    Hi Hekili .... testing out your weak auras


    i noticed that after yday they "changed" the talents somthing get bugged

    if you are talented into Tempest and Crashing storm something screwout and u get the Fury of Air icon as next spell to use

    btw as along is seems that CS even if they change bk the talents position will be the way to go unless buff/nerf around the board wouldn't be nice to implement it in the rotation if it is talented even for single target rotation?

  16. #436
    Quote Originally Posted by N30 View Post
    Hi Hekili .... testing out your weak auras


    i noticed that after yday they "changed" the talents somthing get bugged

    if you are talented into Tempest and Crashing storm something screwout and u get the Fury of Air icon as next spell to use

    btw as along is seems that CS even if they change bk the talents position will be the way to go unless buff/nerf around the board wouldn't be nice to implement it in the rotation if it is talented even for single target rotation?
    Yeah, I'll post an updated WeakAura this morning. They changed talent locations, which changes talent detection for the WA.

    I'll review the priority list for Crashing Storm as well.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Updated the priority helper to address reshuffling of talents, cooldown toggle now affects Feral Spirit and Ascendance and Doom Winds as recommendations. You can bind the key as described up above.

    http://pastebin.com/nSPU1fsN

    This isn't based off of sims at this time. If you have bad performance, let me know what you would want done differently. I'll update my priority list Google Doc in a minute, available here:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KzVPeM3aAOzTOtHQc8PyjITG6y4w8DnHEL29rOoPGgE/edit?usp=sharing
    Author, Hekili, a priority helper addon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hekili View Post
    Yeah, I'll post an updated WeakAura this morning. They changed talent locations, which changes talent detection for the WA.

    I'll review the priority list for Crashing Storm as well.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Updated the priority helper to address reshuffling of talents, cooldown toggle now affects Feral Spirit and Ascendance and Doom Winds as recommendations. You can bind the key as described up above.

    http://pastebin.com/nSPU1fsN

    This isn't based off of sims at this time. If you have bad performance, let me know what you would want done differently. I'll update my priority list Google Doc in a minute, available here:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
    I'll give it a swing soon!

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    Hekili,

    as a big fan of your Shaman and Ret paladin version (I play both equally), will you be working on the paladin side of it and will you have a testing version for the beta, currently in dire straits on beta without it, you never realize how much it frees you up from "thinking" to focus on other things?

    btw I'm well aware it takes time :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyaz View Post
    Hekili,

    as a big fan of your Shaman and Ret paladin version (I play both equally), will you be working on the paladin side of it and will you have a testing version for the beta, currently in dire straits on beta without it, you never realize how much it frees you up from "thinking" to focus on other things?

    btw I'm well aware it takes time :-)
    Working on it. No ETA. I want to beat the Legion pre-patch and have some testing in beta, so hopefully *soon*.
    Author, Hekili, a priority helper addon.

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    well let me know and I'll be your faithful subject for testing!

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