Cataclysm Classic: Leveling in a Shattered Landscape
Cataclysm Classic: Leveling in a Shattered Landscape
Do you consider the Horde to be "the bad guys" or is it more complex?
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The best thing about this thread? These kind of delusions. My sides.Originally Posted by cateran
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2016-04-07, 11:34 PM #4541The Insane
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2016-04-07, 11:34 PM #4542The Unstoppable Force
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On a theoretical level, you should get roughly the same lifespan out of a vanilla server as you did got out of vanilla. 2-3 years tops. Originally Posted by MasterOfKnees
That's how long that content was designed to last.
Provided that people don't quit due to antiquated mechanics, clunky classes, horrible balance for many specs and, compared to today's standards, awfully boring PvE encounters.
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2016-04-07, 11:36 PM #4543High Overlord
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Since the official game has changed so much, and these people aren't making any money off of their version, I see no real problem with them staying up.
For me it's not as much a question of legality as it is a case of "you're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole". It's fine if you don't dig that, just bear in mind that not everyone's sense of right and wrong is wholly tied with the notion of the current legal system's rights and wrongs - thankfully, or this world would never move forward.
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2016-04-07, 11:36 PM #4544The Patient
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If you're telling me Blizz doesn't have a backup of every old version, I don't know what to tell you. Of course they do. Anyone who has worked on an incremental project that is worth their salt keeps saves of previous versions. Not to mention THAT OBVIOUSLY IT EXISTS BECAUSE NOSTALRIOUS PLAYERS WERE JUST PLAYING IT. Vanilla WoW exists and it is LIVE RIGHT NOW AS YOU'RE READING THIS on a private server. Blizzard could just hire those Nost team and launch their server legit and boom it's out tomorrow. Originally Posted by zorkuus
Not cut out, eh? Could you be a little more condescending? This isn't the only MMO I have invested time into and played. I know how things work, I've been playing these types of games for over a decade. I also played Runescape until I didn't anymore, and I spent MORE time and money paying it when they rolled back the servers to 2007 and started over with a stronger design philosophy. Something like this has been done before.
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2016-04-07, 11:38 PM #4545Mechagnome
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WoW forums are basically North Korea right now. No discussion of official legacy servers or the indiscriminate deletions is allowed at all. If there was a single thread like this, a lot of their issues would be solved. But they refuse.
Here are just some of the rather reasonable threads that I've seen deleted:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160407...ic/20742917212
https://web.archive.org/web/20160407...ic/20742927234
https://web.archive.org/web/20160407...2977180?page=1
https://web.archive.org/web/20160407...ic/20743037049
https://web.archive.org/web/20160407.../20742887068#1
https://web.archive.org/web/20160407...ic/20743017353
https://web.archive.org/web/20160407...ic/20742917213
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2016-04-07, 11:38 PM #4546The Insane
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Provided they won't quit because it's too easy when they know the ins and outs of the raids and dungeons as opposed to when it was fresh. Originally Posted by Granyala
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2016-04-07, 11:38 PM #4547Keyboard Turner
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Dam Blizzard
I'm just really pissed that Blizzard doesn't acknowledge that people actually want these legacy servers. Just look at the reaction they gave after a pure fan of the company and lover of the game ask them about it... it's disgusting how out of touch they are to their own community. w w w.youtube.com/watch?v=XuOYmqSF6OQ and to make it clear, i just think that Blizzard should actually make legacy servers.
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2016-04-07, 11:39 PM #4548Herald of the Titans
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I see the championing of Finland died, so I guess it turned out the guy claiming it was 'safe' was blowing smoke.
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2016-04-07, 11:39 PM #4549Stood in the Fire
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Shit game is shit, Lol when desperate people starved for content go back to the past. Legion is going to have the same problems as WoD. Everyone is going to praise the game for a month or two and then watch as their game becomes content starved again and realize that blizzard is just putting WoW on "maintenance" mode for their actual profitable game called Hearthstone.
"Remember, There's no such thing as a stupid question until you ask it"
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2016-04-07, 11:39 PM #4550Spam Assassin!
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The PVE server at Nost was much smaller than the PVP server. Like a lot. And noting again that with 800K or more registered accounts over a year, they will close with something like 150K. It's a retention rate of less than 20% on a well-organized, well-run free server over the course of a single year. When people step back and look at this realistically without all of the emotion involved, it makes a decent case history for Blizzard's apparent point-of-view about it. Originally Posted by Granyala
"...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
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2016-04-07, 11:39 PM #4551DeletedI think he was referring to the fact that WoD and vanilla WoW are the same game. Because lots of people here are thinking otherwise. They treat Vanilla as a different entity. Originally Posted by PolarityER
As for the private servers, they only have access to the client side. They have to emulate the server side. They have to create scripts on everything the server has to handle.
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2016-04-07, 11:40 PM #4552The Patient
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They are a corporation. Do you believe everything a corporation says? Originally Posted by Packers01
If the code is gone, where did Nostralius get it? How are they currently using it? If someone has it, it exists and it does exist. It's even Blizzard's IP, they could just claim the code from Nostralius if they wanted it.
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2016-04-07, 11:41 PM #4553Spam Assassin!
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What about the removal of duplicate threads is a mystery to you? Originally Posted by Propainn
"...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
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2016-04-07, 11:41 PM #4554The Insane
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If those are the reasonable threads then I don't want to see what the unreasonable ones look like. Even those came out as looking like mild temper tantrums. Originally Posted by Propainn
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2016-04-07, 11:41 PM #4555DeletedThere's a thread 150 pages long on the EU forums that's still going strong. Originally Posted by Propainn
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2016-04-07, 11:42 PM #4556Grunt
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Can't we just all like, just end this endless shitstorm?
Okay, we get it, a private server shut down, was it great, was it not, no unjustified reason not to bring it down. There's a petition about it, shitstorming on Blizz's FB and Twitter about it, not sure if Blizz will even notice it. Should this event bring in attention to them that Legacy servers could be a thing, that's just up to them to decide, Legion will be coming out, I will try it, you will probably try it. Will Blizzard lose anything? No, they're literally diving like Scrooge McDuck into a silo of money with the release of Overwatch, WotOG Xpac for Hearthstone, constant skins in HoTS etc. I would love to see Legacy servers and I'm interested to see how could they possibly end up being and how will it affect the playerbase. Nothing more than that. Could be a total delusion thinking that it will raise the playerbase up to a height like never seen before, could be an actual thing. No one knows what can happen and so be it.
So much salt I feel like i'm not on MMO-Champion anymore, like i'm in the middle of The Dead Sea or something.Last edited by CoReRoded; 2016-04-07 at 11:45 PM.
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2016-04-07, 11:42 PM #4557Pandaren Monk
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Obviously you have never worked with programming anything either! No, they wouldn't hire Nost because what the Nost team did would not work for Blizzard. I've posted this a billion time and did on the last page as well. That is an emu server, not an official server. It would take months of development time and manhours, the cost would be large to create the server infrastructure. So no matter what it would not be out tomorrow. You would be lucky to see it by the end of the year. Originally Posted by PolarityER
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2016-04-07, 11:42 PM #4558The Unstoppable Force
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THEY themselves stated that they don't. Originally Posted by PolarityER
And I am inclined to believe them. You move forward.
You eventually improve code and discard the old stuff once you know the improvement works reliably.
Tech changes. Server side probably much more so than consumer side.
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2016-04-07, 11:42 PM #4559Legendary!
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Blizzard never banned anyone playing on a private server + they actually CAN'T ban anyone for this. Originally Posted by Rorcanna
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2016-04-07, 11:43 PM #4560The Insane
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As a finn I want to hear what's this all about... Originally Posted by arcaneshot
