Sweden has to hire 90,000 teachers in 3 years

[Malagan]

It isn't really related to the Article but I thought it was fitting

How about having some empathy for your own people first?! The human race didn't become 1# by the leaders making their own people extinct!
I get that we need to help them, but why do we have to destroy our own countries doing so?! These people don't and wont ever add anything to our society other than crime and mistrust.

Are you sure, morpen? Are you entirely sure there?

[apples]

lol @ the idea of immigration causing humans to go extinct

quality racism

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Smile while your country goes to hell. Smiiiileeee.

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and "swedish will become a minority" based on.

Only people who are totally blind to the demographic changes brought on by mass immigration will not see that Swedes will become a minority in Sweden. It's 30% who aren't Swedish today.

[xdmemes]

Smile while your country goes to hell. Smiiiileeee.

You're already living in a country going down the toilet. Smile!

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What?! So if you're born outside of Sweden you can't ever in any way or from contribute to it's society?

Sure, but we've barely had any beneficial immigration for the past 30 years or so. Getting in as a non-refugee is hard as hell. Should be the other way around.

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How can 90000 teachers needed even be possible? Surely there isn't that much of an influx in school aged immigrants to need that many teachers. Or is the normal teacher to student ratio in Sweden like 1 teacher to 3 students?

Its a combination of things. But yes, most of the immigrants that comes to Sweden says they are like 15-16 years old (thats another discussion) and they got like no education so will have to stay in school for at least a few years. That also leads to the next problem, to not have to put the 22 year old boy in the same class as the 9-10 year old children here you need to put them in special classes, aka it requires a lot more teachers then normal kids.
Another problem is that quite a lot of teachers here are already old and are starting to come close to retirement so those positions needs to be filled not to mention that we are already very low on teachers before this started. The goal is that every teacher should have an education and that is far from true today.

So guessing, maybe 20-30k is because of immigration and the rest from other reasons, however 90k new teachers is 1% of our population as new teachers, it sounds very high to even have 1% of the population as teachers but maybe its normal?

[shadowdasher]

We could also use a few thousand cops here, cant we import from the US? we could use some cops here not afraid to shoot and taser them, they have zero respect for cops here, threatening and taunting them, setting their cars on fire and throwing rocks at them. And if the police even tries to take them down the media and people screams police brutality.

Hearing this makes me sad. I've always wanted to visit Sweden, but at this rate Sweden will be lost.

[Magicalcrab]

The article makes it sound as if it's more of a consequence of the Teacher position being devalued over the course of several decades, leading to fewer people being drawn to the profession. More or less the same problem as in the United St--

How about having some empathy for your own people first?! The human race didn't become 1# by the leaders making their own people extinct!
I get that we need to help them, but why do we have to destroy our own countries doing so?! These people don't and wont ever add anything to our society other than crime and mistrust.

oh.

ohhhh noooo...

[ParanoiD84]

Hearing this makes me sad. I've always wanted to visit Sweden, but at this rate Sweden will be lost.

You will be fine in the cities, it's mostly the suburbs and outside the citys where it's bad.

[Mayhem]

Only people who are totally blind to the demographic changes brought on by mass immigration will not see that Swedes will become a minority in Sweden. It's 30% who aren't Swedish today.

By the "born to two swedish parents"-description, right?

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It's called human empathy. I highly recommend it. Human empathy is the #1 reason the human race got to the top.

Empathy works if it's a bonus of sorts. You have some extra-rescources and then you share them to get a favor of sorts. This favor can just be good will and have no direct tangible benefit, think of it a a credit of sorts. This also the reason it feels good to help someone, you would most likely get something in return which may even be something you couldn't aquire normally.
Imagine you are a lumberer, you do a blacksmith a favour and help him with materials so he can setup his workshop. In return you would get better tools or have yours repaired. Yes, in this case it's most likely said beforehand what you would get, but it's still on good-will in the beginning since you could not guarantee the smith would hold up his part. If you didn't have any empathy you would just say "fuck you" to the smith and not even have the possibility of getting better tools.
It's just an initial impulse to start something because otherwise nothing would change.
Just paying without anything in return is simple self-sacrifice and that only works to protect someone deemed important e.g. family or ones citizens.

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You're already living in a country going down the toilet. Smile!

Funny, meanwhile the Canadian economy is tanking under the glorious feminist leader.

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By the "born to two swedish parents"-description, right?

Yes? I won't change definition because then you can't compare the data before they changed it in 2003 to now.

[Mayhem]

Sure, but we've barely had any beneficial immigration for the past 30 years or so. Getting in as a non-refugee is hard as hell. Should be the other way around.

How old are you? I mean, you´re an immigrant, right?

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How old are you? I mean, you´re an immigrant, right?

Immigration to Sweden from other nordic countries is like someone moving from northern sweden to southern Sweden. So, yeah.

[Mayhem]

Immigration to Sweden from other nordic countries is like someone moving from northern sweden to southern Sweden. So, yeah.

What a convenient excuse, doesn´t change that you´re contributing to the problem of swedes becoming a minority in sweden, how can you live with yourself?

[morpen]

Are you sure, morpen? Are you entirely sure there?

Sure of what? I meant as in it wasn't taken from the article but I thought it was fitting given the circumstances

lol @ the idea of immigration causing humans to go extinct

quality racism

I didn't say that it would make freaking humans go extinct, just the original people of the country.
So what you are one of those people who think that there is nothing wrong in thousands upon thousands of people from a different culture literally invading another country, warping its demographic and culture completely? Cause I sure as hell do.
Just look it up, the original swedes are going to be a minority in as little as 30 years if current trends keep up.

[Breccia]

At first I didn't believe it but it is becoming very clear that Sweden will become minority Swedish within a very shout time.

...really? You know the USA is like 70% white, and we've been taking in slaves and/or immigrants for centuries?

Also, I'm curious where this number comes from. 90,000 teachers, even with a modest class size like 15, would require 1,350,000 children, and the post seems to imply they'll be immigrant and/or "minority" children. Is that really the case? Did Sweden really take in that many children and in theory a bunch of parents with them? That number sounds really high.

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What a convenient excuse, doesn´t change that you´re contributing to the problem of swedes becoming a minority in sweden, how can you live with yourself?

I didn't say it's a problem in the first place, I just said it's going to happen. Refugees from africa or middle east on the other hand is not comparable to Finns moving to Sweden. There's no cultural gap between Sweden and Finland and the educational standards are about the same too.