Classic World of Warcraft Discussion [Megathread]

[Fudge]

This part, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Pirates of Nostralius, I certainly agree with.

Getting pretty goddamn tired of MMO-C being the "Alpha update channel" because there's absolutely nothing else to update.

^That, exactly that^ ... Maybe your non-alpha players wouldn't be so salty if MMO-C or Blizz had some news about LIVE servers every now and then... But that would require content.

It's basically turned into this: "Hey, here's a bright and shiny new toy" ... "You can't play with it though, you get to play with that same worn out one, but here's all the info on how much fun we're having with the new one"...

Tell the live player base about what's going on on live.. When we can all agree that there's nothing new going on there.. then we're at least acknowledging there's an issue.

On topic: Closing down a private server that is keeping some of the wow player base motivated and interested in WoW/Blizzard (while no new live content is being offered) seems counter-productive to a good business model.

[Ausr]

^That, exactly that^ ... Maybe your non-alpha players wouldn't be so salty if MMO-C or Blizz had some news about LIVE servers every now and then... But that would require content.

It's basically turned into this: "Hey, here's a bright and shiny new toy" ... "You can't play with it though, you get to play with that same worn out one, but here's all the info on how much fun we're having with the new one"...

Tell the live player base about what's going on on live.. When we can all agree that there's nothing new going on there.. then we're at least acknowledging there's an issue.

On topic: Closing down a private server that is keeping some of the wow player base motivated and interested in WoW/Blizzard (while no new live content is being offered) seems counter-productive to a good business model.

Why update a game that's getting to get into the next expansion? Makes no sense.

[Goondicker]

Their latest 'no' is dated January 15, 2016. This year. And before that? Blizzcon 2015.

I believe you, but I don't remember hearing it. I'm watching the 2015 Blizzcon panel now, but where did you hear the Jan2016 one?

[Aituul]

It seems plenty of people think the only problem with retail is the content droughts. This is certainly not the case for me, and i'd like to hear why you think more content will make the game better. Did you like WoD? Also worth noting that content droughts are inevitable with the current design of WoW.

[Gaman]

Hehe, Amen, except I was paying in 6mo installments and hadn't really logged in over a year

My #1 biggest WoW regret: 1-Month sub, always, even when i played alot aswell, and almost staying subbed for 10 consecutive years. So in the end, if I had stopped playing after just renewing a 6-monthers I would still probably have saved myself alot of money in the long run haha.

I said this from about 2008 to 2014, but I'm not as certain, now. I really didn't think they'd tank WoD this hard.

Yeah, you have a good point, I didnt go into it, but I do belive it can happend before WoW's last expansion if subs keep dropping like it have and Legacy servers is a way for them to keeping the sub-fee and increase/stabilize subs, it might happend before the end. Just didnt find a good way to implend said thought into the post without making the post a complete mess for some reason, so left it out.

If it would come down to Legacy+Sub vs F2P or something, I think they might reconsider, unless they go fucking haywire with stuff in the in game shop.

[Surfd]

Ofc it will run on their servers but im assuming it needs a seperate client in the battle net app it honestly wouldn't take much work to implement once legion is complete, i mean just look at the small team that ran nostalrius you cant seriously tell me a multi million company cannot make it happen.

I give up. It is literally pointless to try to explain to you people the difference between an emulator and the original product. THEY ARE NOT COMPATABLE. They both display the same end results (roughly in Nosts case, since it was still buggy and broken all over the place), but they do so in a COMPLETELY different manner.

Nost was NOT running on a blizzard server. Nost was NOT a WoW server. Nost was doing its best to PRETEND like it is a WoW server, by EMULATING the closest thing it could get to proper output for proper input.

And what the hell makes you think it would run on their servers? They updated the servers and the software a couple of times since Vanilla launched. They have pretty much outright stated that their original code wouldnt even launch on their new hardware. And you think that they are just going to take a random emulator and fire it up on their custom hardware and network and it will just magically work? Sorry, it just doesnt work that way.

[urasim]

This shows how childish you are. Getting excitement out of other people's problems? That's kind of petty, don't you think?

Oh noes!! I've been called childish! You've really hurt my feels! /s

Keep it up. You're making me laugh so fucking hard right now.

I'm getting "excitement" from a bunch of scumbags that got what was coming to them, yes.

Infracted [MoanaLisa]

[Surfd]

^That, exactly that^ ... Maybe your non-alpha players wouldn't be so salty if MMO-C or Blizz had some news about LIVE servers every now and then... But that would require content.

It's basically turned into this: "Hey, here's a bright and shiny new toy" ... "You can't play with it though, you get to play with that same worn out one, but here's all the info on how much fun we're having with the new one"...

Tell the live player base about what's going on on live.. When we can all agree that there's nothing new going on there.. then we're at least acknowledging there's an issue.

On topic: Closing down a private server that is keeping some of the wow player base motivated and interested in WoW/Blizzard (while no new live content is being offered) seems counter-productive to a good business model.

Do you also bitch at book authors? I mean, GRR Martin has been taking forever to release the next book in Game of Thrones. And I already consumed all the content in the previous one. Should I whine and complain that he isnt releasing new content for the previous book while he works on the next one?

The Game is episodic. Once they are done with all the planned updates for the current episode, you wait for the next one. They are not required to keep adding new things to do right up till the moment the next episode ships. That isnt how this works..........

[urasim]

There's also billions of people without real access to the internet.

Most people have downloaded or streamed a song or film over their years on the internet, all the way from the days of Napster and Limewire. Now please stop responding with this dull moral crap.

MOST!???? Prove it. You can't.

Billions not having internet doesn't mean there aren't billions that do. You can keep flailing all you want. You're wrong.

[Divinexve]

im scared guys

[wych]

MOST!???? Prove it. You can't.

Billions not having internet doesn't mean there aren't billions that do. You can keep flailing all you want. You're wrong.

Sigh if I really have to spoonfeed this to you:

http://www.go-gulf.com/blog/online-piracy/

-Over 75% of computers have at least 1 illegally downloaded application
-An average iPod has $800 of pirated music on
-95% of music downloaded online is illegal

There. Objective proof that most internet users have illegally downloaded a song or video at some point.

[Charge me Doctor]

Having to make decisions and having to face other players in a game where world PvP is meant to be a significant feature? How horrible.

Sure, fly for a hour to get to tanaris, do 10 quests with pirates, get level 31, wonder where the fuck other quests, go to forums to seek where to level next, while being 1 shotted by literally everyone here. Such fun, such feature

[wych]

Sure, fly for a hour to get to tanaris, do 10 quests with pirates, get level 31, wonder where the fuck other quests, go to forums to seek where to level next, while being 1 shotted by literally everyone here. Such fun, such feature

A sense of fear and danger in the world? Boy I missed that feeling in WoW

[Tuesdays]

I guess people never learn. This is from the new BC private server that people have been talking about. Way to stay low key.

The server release is coming on April 14, 2016, evening hours (from GMT+1 perspective). We will be rolling a countdown on Twitch, so stay tuned.

At this point I don't care, so as long they leave the forums.

[Charge me Doctor]

The Russians will wipe their ass with Blizzard's "formal letters". Russian Vanilla WoW Private server "Valkyrie" says "Privet" (that's "hello" in Russian).

I don't understand what the fuck is wrong with your brain if you are bringing up illegal private servers to public. Sure when i'll get closed it'll be blizzards fault again, not the fault of whistleblowers like this dude

[Surfd]

I don't understand what the fuck is wrong with your brain if you are bringing up illegal private servers to public. Sure when i'll get closed it'll be blizzards fault again, not the fault of whistleblowers like this dude

They host their servers in russia. Blizzard could simply drop some lunch money on any random russion thug and he would likely quite happily go break the knees of whoever is hosting the server, and literally nobody would know, or care.

[Brubear]

Blizzard is reporting that they're having major b.net issues that may be stemming from a DDoS attack. Wonder if a Nostralius player is salty?

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743124211#13

[Ielenia]

I believe you, but I don't remember hearing it. I'm watching the 2015 Blizzcon panel now, but where did you hear the Jan2016 one?

This is their most recent answer that I know of:

We feel it is not feasible to support multiple versions of World of Warcraft concurrently, and instead believe that our resources would be better placed continuing to build upon the current live game.

Aerythlea's post is at the bottom, dated January 15, 2016. As for Blizzcon, someone in this thread posted the Youtube video link with the exact timestamp, but it was many, many pages ago, and I don't remember the poster's name.

EDIT: Found the YouTube video. Starts at 37:14

[urasim]

Sigh if I really have to spoonfeed this to you:

http://www.go-gulf.com/blog/online-piracy/

-Over 75% of computers have at least 1 illegally downloaded application
-An average iPod has $800 of pirated music on
-95% of music downloaded online is illegal

There. Objective proof that most internet users have illegally downloaded a song or video at some point.

What a shitty and biased info-graphic. It uses an overall numbers but exclude what the overall downloaded items are. Guess what they are? Porn that's STREAMED. Games and music actually account for a minority and it doesn't actually tell us how many people download illegal things.

That "75% of computers have 1 download" is based on a tiny survey created by the dutch. I can't even access the survey to prove it wrong... But I really don't have to. It not being available proves that it's not reliable.

I tried to look at the sources, but they all link back to the same dutch survey... Terrible sources are terrible. Keep digging, bro.

[Namalia]

I believe you, but I don't remember hearing it. I'm watching the 2015 Blizzcon panel now, but where did you hear the Jan2016 one?

The question about legacy servers is at 37:15 or thereabouts.