China bans LGBT content on TV

[Finith]

Just to add, there's a whole bunch of alpha, aggressive, macho types of gays. (just one example, look at how buff Dan Savage got)

Also aids is noticeably higher in gay men, although his original comment drawing a causal link is obviously wrong.

I would have to assume those statistics are on a downward trend given the vigorous campaigns undertaken in the LGBT community on the importance of testing and sex safe, but I certainly take your point in an historical context.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

We have good ole "freedom lovers" supporting Chinese censorship, this thread is a comedy,

Hey there. I am not sure what country you live in, but even in the "freedom loving" USA our broadcasts are bound by decency and moral standards.

I don't see what the Chinese are doing as censorship.

“No television drama shall show abnormal sexual relationships and behaviours, such as incest, same-sex relationships, sexual perversion, sexual assault, sexual abuse, sexual violence, and so on,” according to the news rules.

Where is the censorship?

Secondly, you are not going to see too much of what is outlawed by the Chinese standards for broadcasting on American TV's either.

Once, again where is the censorship?

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Isn't that one sided though? I am pretty sure only the female Bonobos get down with each other.

Even if this would be true, I don't see how it really matters. Lesbians are still homosexual. If you are not ok with one, you can't really be ok with the other either. And if you think one is unnatural, so is the other.

Which is why I said that it's hilarious that some of the "ew gays are gross"-people probably are jerking off to Lesbians. It's awfully hypocritical.

[Kraenen]

I would have to assume those statistics are on a downward trend given the vigorous campaigns undertaken in the LGBT community on the importance of testing and sex safe, but I certainly take your point in an historical context.

Apparently it's relatively stable: http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/ux-test-2...apshot-508.pdf

Or in very specific subgroups increased:

The number of new infections among the youngest MSM (aged
13–24) increased 22 percent, from 7,200 infections in 2008 to 8,800
in 2010.

[GennGreymane]

Hey there. I am not sure what country you live in, but even in the "freedom loving" USA our broadcasts are bound by decency and moral standards.

I don't see what the Chinese are doing as censorship.

“No television drama shall show abnormal sexual relationships and behaviours, such as incest, same-sex relationships, sexual perversion, sexual assault, sexual abuse, sexual violence, and so on,” according to the news rules.

Where is the censorship?

Secondly, you are not going to see too much of what is outlawed by the Chinese standards for broadcasting on American TV's either.

Once, again where is the censorship?

Look at the purpose and intent.

Also the American system is pretty dumb when you really look at it. All the violence you want, but show one use of the word fuck and everyone goes crazy!

[Finith]

Apparently it's relatively stable: http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/ux-test-2...apshot-508.pdf

Or in very specific subgroups increased:

Well that's not super encouraging. It might help if states stopped teaching sex ed classes with information straight from the 1890s. More advocacy friend would appear to be the solution.

[Pratt]

There was nothing left to discuss 4 posts in, Seconded.

Threads like these are great because they're an excellent opportunity to add a bunch of terrible people to ignore.

[Deleted]

Just to add, there's a whole bunch of alpha, aggressive, macho types of gays. (just one example, look at how buff Dan Savage got

Right. Some family friends are a gay couple. One is "stereo-typically" flamboyant and feminine, the other worked for a private military company operating in Iraq; wouldn't know he's gay when he's not with his partner.

Then you got like the bear subculture and stuff, who look and act "manly".

[tj119]

It's China....how does this surprise anyone ?

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Look at the purpose and intent.

Also the American system is pretty dumb when you really look at it. All the violence you want, but show one use of the word fuck and everyone goes crazy!

I am pretty sure if you looked at the broadcasting laws of any country they will be loaded with arbitrary rules and equally as stupid as some of Americas policies.

Secondly, why are you not allowing another culture and another race to decide what is best for their own people? Why must you butt in and think you know better?

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Secondly, why are you not allowing another culture and another race to decide what is best for their own people? Why must you butt in and think you know better?

I am sure all the cultures/countries with Sharia law, forced marriages etc. would like your attitude. I mean, it's up to them to decide what's best for their people, right?

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Even if this would be true, I don't see how it really matters. Lesbians are still homosexual. If you are not ok with one, you can't really be ok with the other either. And if you think one is unnatural, so is the other.

Which is why I said that it's hilarious that some of the "ew gays are gross"-people probably are jerking off to Lesbians. It's awfully hypocritical.

Not really.

Men don't see Lesbians as actual Lesbians. They see them as potential sexual partners engaged in sexual foreplay with each other because there isn't a man around, which leads to male fantasies.

Straight men, see other men as sexually repugnant, so that is why they have two different responses. You seem to want expect rational thought when it comes to sexual desire.

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I am sure all the cultures/countries with Sharia law, forced marriages etc. would like your attitude. I mean, it's up to them to decide what's best for their people, right?

According to statistics, these cultures and countries overwhelmingly support Sharia Law, so.....

You might want to read up a little bit on that, and not take on the belief that Western society should be able to dictate what other cultures, races, societies and governments should do in their own countries.

Leave these people alone for fucks sake.

[kail]

It's China....how does this surprise anyone ?

Exactly.

/10char

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You seem to want expect rational thought when it comes to sexual desire.

It still doesn't make it any less hypocritical. That's all there is to it. Either homosexual behavior is "unnatural, ewww and icky", or it's not.
That said: No, I don't expect anything else but irrational hypocrisy from those people.

[Ahovv]

I could have sworn this was old news. I read very similar things about China in the news a few months back.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Gender != sex.


And again you are back to not knowing the difference between harming others and not harming others. Try again.

How would you define harm?

I would suggest a young 9 year old girl who suddenly turns around in a public bathroom and sees a 50 year old Rush Limbaugh looking man wearing a sundress and lipstick would be traumatized emotionally.

That certainly is harm.

[Valstorm Warsong]

America should do the same in my opinion, it's bad to normalize homosexuality.

[ls-]

It still doesn't make it any less hypocritical. That's all there is to it. Either homosexual behavior is "unnatural, ewww and icky", or it's not.
That said: No, I don't expect anything else but irrational hypocrisy from those people.

Weren't you the one who wanted to lock all sadists down, but let masochists be?? O_o

[Deleted]

I would suggest a young 9 year old girl who suddenly turns around in a public bathroom and sees a 50 year old Rush Limbaugh looking man wearing a sundress and lipstick would be traumatized emotionally.
That certainly is harm.

How often did you see something like that happen in reality?

America should do the same in my opinion, it's bad to normalize homosexuality.

Why? Objective reasons please.

Weren't you the one who wanted to lock all sadists down, but let masochists be?? O_o

I doubt it.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

It still doesn't make it any less hypocritical. That's all there is to it. Either homosexual behavior is "unnatural, ewww and icky", or it's not.
That said: No, I don't expect anything else but irrational hypocrisy from those people.

I am not sure you are understanding the nuances of sexual desire and response to different stimuli.

A guy looking at a porno that has lesbians which have two ultra looking feminine, big busted females, will have a different sexual response than suddenly seeing two average dudes engaged in sexual acts.

I am not sure why you are looking for validation or why you even care that people respond differently to different sexual stimuli.