Who are the Most Powerful Anti/SuperHeros/Villains WITHOUT Powers

[Warpaladin]

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) he's just a normal human with a spiffy ring.

You know what, I completely forgot about Green Lantern not having superpowers, just remembered it was all the ring -- technology ftw :P

[Fencers]

The Lantern rings are not technology. They are magically derived from celestial forces/agents.

Hal Jordon was even the avatar of the God of Abraham's vengeance for a time and fused with an eternal being.

Also, Odin is an innate cosmic being.

[Khadgar]

I'd also throw in Steve Rodgers (present), Recently, Rogers had the Super Soldier Serum sucked from his body, leaving him looking a lot more like he’s been operating since WWII.

He’s still out there kicking ass alongside S.H.I.E.L.D. and the Avengers, proving that his gift for leadership and strategy had nothing to do with any experimental serum.

[RaoBurning]

Off that list I'd put my money on Ozy or Bats. Ozy because he, unlike every other villain or hero, actually accomplished his entire set of goals. He also never fell prey to villainous monologue cliches, so that's a win. Batman should be obvious: He's the goddamn Batman. Ozy caught a bullet, but Batman dodged Omega Beams.

The Lantern rings are not technology. They are magically derived from celestial forces/agents.

Hal Jordon was even the avatar of the God of Abraham's vengeance for a time and fused with an eternal being.

Also, Odin is an innate cosmic being.

Non-Alan Scott rings are totes not magic.

"When the Green Lantern character was reinvented, beginning with the introduction of Hal Jordan, the magical ring concept was replaced with a scientifically based one. The new version of the ring is created by the Guardians of the Universe, who also create the Green Lantern Corps."

Which, come to think of it anyway, I think "unrealistically advanced technology/intellect" should be banned when discussing non-Superpowered individuals. Drop Lex and Stark on an island and see who builds the first radio out of scrap and sweat: maybe cool. Race to launch a sand powered satellite: silly. Like, if someone had just told Syndrome that being super smart was a power we could have avoided that entire movie.

[Hooked]

DR Doom is my favorite villain.

[wowaccounttom]

Saitama for sure

anyone who says he has super powers has not been paying attention


training =/= super powers


heck, Goku just didn't make it because he is Saiyan (and even then, thats not a super power)

[Woop Woop]

You know as well as me that Batman would never show up for a fight without being able to counter everything his opponent throws at him. He'll just throw an EMP device in Iron Man's face and be done with it.

I mean, he defeats Superman for christs sake...

He defeats someone who doesn't fight back, what a boss!
I mean, if Superman wanted to, he could just throw a rock at him or eyebeam his ass without Batman seeing it coming. The movie fight isn't exactly how it would have gone down if Superman wanted to kill people.
And people can trick Batman, like Lex Luthor did in the film (just an example).

Would be an interesting fight between Ironman and Batman for sure, but I'm pretty sure Ironman can deal with EMPs.

[RaoBurning]

Saitama for sure

anyone who says he has super powers has not been paying attention

heck, Goku just didn't make it because he is Saiyan (and even then, thats not a super power)

While technically accurate, I think including him really defeats the spirit of the competition.

[Lochton]

Batman, Ironman, Luthor, Punisher

[Lorgar Aurelian]

You know as well as me that Batman would never show up for a fight without being able to counter everything his opponent throws at him. He'll just throw an EMP device in Iron Man's face and be done with it.

I mean, he defeats Superman for christs sake...

when batman fought bane he got his ass kicked he shows up to fights without counters all the time and iron man could just make armor that isent effect by an emp.

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You all have your answer. Now cue the song and dance.

[Fenixdown]

There's Doom...and then there's nobody else. There is only Doom.

[Chinese Bootlickers]

Batman. All dat plot armor.

[ItachiZaku]

I'd go with Ironman, simply because it's not just that he has Tech (batman has tech), but HE builds the tech himself. He doesn't have a lap that just produces shit for him like Blade or Batman.

[Repefe]

It's questionable to say that batman is without powers, he has strength similar to Captain America, both are considered peak human beings, on border between humans and super humans. Ironman can beat them both depending on who writes the story without the need to bench press 500kg.

For the record. Doctor Strange ... is his magic a superpower or just a skill ?

[Deldavala]

It's questionable to say that batman is without powers, he has strength similar to Captain America, both are considered peak human beings, on border between humans and super humans. Ironman can beat them both depending on who writes the story without the need to bench press 500kg.

For the record. Doctor Strange ... is his magic a superpower or just a skill ?

Well I would say magic is a power, but in Marvel universe its a trained skill so you could argue for Doctor Strange.

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

the motherfucking Comedian.

and Rick Grimes. Dat revolver doe!

[zenkai]

Lex Luther
Batman
Joker
Ironman
Antman
Hawk
Though one can argue using technology that doesn't exist is in a way a super power, it's just manufactured.

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the motherfucking Comedian.

and Rick Grimes. Dat revolver doe!

Ah yeah good one

[Rafoel]

EMPs dont work on Ironman. The suits tanks nuclear blasts.

If you have to chose a hero/villian without powers, but still include tech Ironman is among the best(if not the best).
All the ones that have better tech than him usually comes with some sort of power(like Thanos).

You can't include Ironman here. His suit is his power. Anybody with such suit would defeat any human.

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Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) he's just a normal human with a spiffy ring.

Then Hal Jordan is very weak. Much weaker than Batman - the ring is powerful, but Hal Jordan is not.

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Though, read the list and propositions - and Batman indeed seems to be spot 1. His physical capabilities are top notch. He uses variious gadgets, but the gadgets are not powerful on themselves (see throwable metal bats) but he is merely very profficient with their use.

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BATMAN.
No way around it.